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Pigfynn
04-13-2009, 02:50 PM
listen here:

http://my.thescore.com/footyblog/default.aspx (http://my.thescore.com/footyblog/default.aspx)

Shaughno
04-13-2009, 02:50 PM
Excited Jon? :lol:

Jeffro
04-13-2009, 02:51 PM
nice

Pigfynn
04-13-2009, 02:52 PM
Ya so?

:lol:

zeelaw
04-13-2009, 02:53 PM
Beat me too it haha

TFCREDNWHITE
04-13-2009, 02:54 PM
Why would this guy need to Trial?? He is obviously WAAAAYYY better than Velez or Harmse!?!?

ExiledRed
04-13-2009, 02:58 PM
Isn't this the guy who said he was going to test Rooney's dodgy foot by giving it a kick, prior to the England v Ecuador fixture in the WC?

James Oliphant
04-13-2009, 02:59 PM
Permalink:
http://my.thescore.com/footyblog/archive/2009/04/13/14239.aspx

Nuvinho
04-13-2009, 03:03 PM
He is crazy..in a good way....I can see Cunny running with the ball.......see's him, turns and runs the other way!!

FluSH
04-13-2009, 03:04 PM
Isn't this the guy who said he was going to test Rooney's dodgy foot by giving it a kick, prior to the England v Ecuador fixture in the WC?


haha... this is too much...

Pigfynn
04-13-2009, 03:05 PM
Rohann says dude is huge!

Daveisonfire
04-13-2009, 03:05 PM
Yikes when MLSR gets it right it hurts me inside

bhoybobby
04-13-2009, 03:06 PM
Isn't this the guy who said he was going to test Rooney's dodgy foot by giving it a kick, prior to the England v Ecuador fixture in the WC?

My kinda guy, take no prisoners head fuck em before they kick a ball & then give em brain damage. In a sportsman kinda way though, i.e, don't get caught.

Nuvinho
04-13-2009, 03:06 PM
didn't someone with sources say that the guy there were looking at before was a "big" name.......he does have a big name and is big....interesting!!!

FluSH
04-13-2009, 03:08 PM
My kinda guy, take no prisoners head fuck em before they kick a ball & then give em brain damage. In a sportsman kinda way though, i.e, don't get caught.

This man looks like DEATH

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/08DD8qX7Is5OE/610x.jpg

Nuvinho
04-13-2009, 03:09 PM
GBS.......just cancelled his flight to Toronto on May 2nd, 2009.

Roogsy
04-13-2009, 03:10 PM
Mi paisano!

FluSH
04-13-2009, 03:11 PM
He's not returning back to his club that's for sure:



El defensa José Luis Perlaza hace pocos minutos manifestó que se va tranquilo del Centro Deportivo Olmedo y agradecido fundamentalmente con el presidente del club Eduardo Granizo, quien le habría mostrado su respaldo durante estos años.
José Perlaza espera que se consiga lo más pronto posible un club, ya que quiere continuar con su futuro futbolístico
Por otro lado el presidente Eduardo Granizo sería el encargado de negociar los derechos deportivos de Perlaza.

Keyman
04-13-2009, 03:12 PM
He looks like he could fuck someone up, but I don't know if he'd fuck us up, or the opposition. Time will tell, I guess. I wouldn't think too much of this until we see him play.

loconet
04-13-2009, 03:13 PM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_adeo4BF_eXk/SXfaAxXXCYI/AAAAAAAACCQ/nV-r-I5PIQs/s320/El+Zancudo+Loco.jpg

Nicknamed "El Zancudo" - the mosquito. Libertadores experience, WC, rumours that he was going to Barcelona SC., tall, ugly as fuck.

This is our guy. Get him a # and close the back. Serioux and him will make many soil their shorts.

Nodoubtguy
04-13-2009, 03:13 PM
move over DeRo....new best hair on TFC!!!
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1287/624225081_a2dec88589_o.jpg

Roogsy
04-13-2009, 03:14 PM
LOL! :lol:

What is with South American footballers and their hair?

dantdot
04-13-2009, 03:15 PM
This man looks like DEATH

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/08DD8qX7Is5OE/610x.jpg

Death's incarnate. The grim reaper. Scary as fuck.

bhoybobby
04-13-2009, 03:17 PM
This man looks like DEATH


http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/08DD8qX7Is5OE/610x.jpgLooks a bit focused eh!

I don't think he'd be apologizing & helping you up after he just brutalized you.

Just what we need a nasty mutha fucker who can play a bit. Every team needs one, all great winning teams have at least one.

Keeps the dog fuckers on their toes at training as well

Getter done Mo

spezz44
04-13-2009, 03:17 PM
Flush any chance you can translate ur last post??

Nodoubtguy
04-13-2009, 03:19 PM
Libertadores experience, WC, rumours that he was going to Barcelona SC., tall, ugly as fuck.


Not sure he made it on the pitch....
http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/statisticsandrecords/players/player=181929/index.html

FluSH
04-13-2009, 03:21 PM
Flush any chance you can translate ur last post??


Defender Jose Luis Perlaza said a few minutes ago that he will be leaving quietly from Deportivo Olmedo and is grateful primarily with club president Eduardo Granizo, who has shown his support during these years.

Jose Perlaza hopes to achieve, as soon as possible, a new club because he wishes to continue with his footballing career.

On the other hand President Eduardo Granizo will be responsible for negotiating sports/club rights Perlaza.


(amended google translation - yes I cheated lol)

Roogsy
04-13-2009, 03:23 PM
El defensa José Luis Perlaza hace pocos minutos manifestó que se va tranquilo del Centro Deportivo Olmedo y agradecido fundamentalmente con el presidente del club Eduardo Granizo, quien le habría mostrado su respaldo durante estos años.
José Perlaza espera que se consiga lo más pronto posible un club, ya que quiere continuar con su futuro futbolístico
Por otro lado el presidente Eduardo Granizo sería el encargado de negociar los derechos deportivos de Perlaza.

Defender Jose Luis Perlaza has just announced that he has parted amicably with Central Depostivo Olmedo and thanked Club President Eduardo Granizo who had shown supportive over the years.

Jose Perlaza expects to sign with a club as quickly as possible as he wants to continue his footballing career.

On a related note, the President Granizo will be in charge of negotiating Perlaza's rights.


(I did it the hard way)

spezz44
04-13-2009, 03:23 PM
^^ thanks, cant say i remember him playing for ecuador, but seems lile a good fit.

rocker
04-13-2009, 03:25 PM
so the prez of his former club is his agent.... that's an interesting relationship

FluSH
04-13-2009, 03:26 PM
Some web research:

http://www.mundodeportivo.com.ec/newsv2.php?id_noticia=25362

The above article states that he is leaving his club because of differances with the manager: Dragan Miranovic He's played the majority of his career with Centro Deportivo Olmedo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centro_Deportivo_Olmedo

loconet
04-13-2009, 03:27 PM
Not sure he made it on the pitch....
http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/statisticsandrecords/players/player=181929/index.html


ah! You are right, he was benched in all of Ecuador's games during the actual tournament. He played the friendlies before the WC.

More info from the spanish wiki..
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Luis_Perlaza

Shaughno
04-13-2009, 03:27 PM
No I think the club still holds his rights. At least that's what makes sense to me.

bhoybobby
04-13-2009, 03:28 PM
so the prez of his former club is his agent.... that's an interesting relationship

No worse than Barry McClean & Mo. lol

The devil's his agent, he looks like a NOT IN MY FUCKING HOUSE typa guy. Just what the doctor ordered.

billyfly
04-13-2009, 03:30 PM
I translated "Defender Jose Luis Perlaza admits he is very ugly but tall. The player went on to add that although he has never met Harmse, he's probably "way better than him."

Pigfynn
04-13-2009, 03:30 PM
^ ok that's funny

Oldtimer
04-13-2009, 03:31 PM
He is crazy..in a good way....I can see Cunny running with the ball.......see's him, turns and runs the other way!!

Totally unrealistic! Cunny running, I mean... :lol:

FluSH
04-13-2009, 03:33 PM
I translated "Defender Jose Luis Perlaza admits he is very ugly but tall. The player went on to add that although he has never met Harmse, he's probably "way better than him."

haha

quote of the year...

joshpa
04-13-2009, 03:34 PM
no.. that was Ulises De LA Cruz.. the same guy that was embarrased when robinho absolutely destroyed him in a WCQ a year ago.. i was ashamed..



Isn't this the guy who said he was going to test Rooney's dodgy foot by giving it a kick, prior to the England v Ecuador fixture in the WC?

Roogsy
04-13-2009, 03:35 PM
LOL @ the Harmse and Cunny jokes. Ah...good times.

Seriously...I don't know anything about this guy but at this point I am willing to try anything to help out the current CB situation.

billyfly
04-13-2009, 03:37 PM
Flush - you get the "gift" from Whoopee yet?

FluSH
04-13-2009, 03:38 PM
some interesting audio in Spanish:

http://www.mundodeportivo.com.ec/entrevista/futbolnacional/Olmedo260309-1252.mp3

sorry I'm not translating this haha (gets asked what teams he is looking at... he dances around the question... talks about the hinchada (supporters) of Olmedo and thanks them and the prez)

FluSH
04-13-2009, 03:38 PM
Flush - you get the "gift" from Whoopee yet?


Not yet... but I'll be sure to send you my many thanks once I do :D

Whoop
04-13-2009, 03:39 PM
Flush - you get the "gift" from Whoopee yet?

Billy that just sounds wrong. Geez.

LOL

billyfly
04-13-2009, 03:42 PM
I love speaking in code.

"The eagle has landed, the fat man walks alone."

spezz44
04-13-2009, 03:43 PM
anyone no the ecuadorian population around toronto?? big, small?

FluSH
04-13-2009, 03:45 PM
anyone no the ecuadorian population around toronto?? big, small?


Roogsy + 5 more guys...

Roogsy
04-13-2009, 03:45 PM
I would guess probably in the low thousands. Maybe around 5-10k.

Roogsy
04-13-2009, 03:46 PM
Roogsy + 5 more guys...

:lol:

:dita:

ensco
04-13-2009, 03:49 PM
Isn't this the guy who said he was going to test Rooney's dodgy foot by giving it a kick, prior to the England v Ecuador fixture in the WC?

he never got in the game

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/report?id=191968&&cc=5901

billyfly
04-13-2009, 03:49 PM
The other thread says Houston has a discovery claim on this guy?!

Oldtimer
04-13-2009, 03:50 PM
So where are giambac's congratulations to MO? I want to see it!!!

spezz44
04-13-2009, 03:51 PM
Roogsy + 5 more guys...



haha ok good to no roogsy get ur crew out to see this guy haha

Pachuco
04-13-2009, 05:39 PM
So where are giambac's congratulations to MO? I want to see it!!!

Are you kidding? you may atleast want to wait until the player's signed. Having someone on trial is far from signing him as we all know.

InTheCrowd
04-13-2009, 07:05 PM
I'll be happy if we sign him on a non DP salary. I'm happy that he's not only big and robust, but technical as well. I'd like to see this guy playing for TFC.

trane
04-13-2009, 07:21 PM
He sounds like my kind of CB, we will see. It sounds promising. I hope that this is done, and done soon.

InTheCrowd
04-13-2009, 07:37 PM
Ya, in needs to be done soon before the transfer window closes.

Corpand
04-14-2009, 12:40 AM
didn't someone with sources say that the guy there were looking at before was a "big" name.......he does have a big name and is big....interesting!!!

;):)

ginkster88
04-14-2009, 12:52 AM
^ His was the testimony I've been alluding to these past weeks.

TFC John
04-14-2009, 05:23 AM
Does this mean we can't do a "Cut Your Hair" chant when Beckerman come to town?

Oldtimer
04-14-2009, 05:34 AM
Are you kidding? you may atleast want to wait until the player's signed. Having someone on trial is far from signing him as we all know.

Why are you answering for giambac, unless you're his sock puppet.

stretchthetruth
04-14-2009, 10:10 AM
holy sh!t... serioux and perlaza on the backline? i might poop my pants in fear, and i'm not even playing...

and i'll agree with some here, - enough with trialing everybody... he's better than our worst starting defender - not a tough decision, is it?

twismca
04-14-2009, 10:14 AM
This is MLS. He's not on trial - WE are

backbeat
04-14-2009, 10:23 AM
I don’t think it’s so much a trial rather a negotiation with Houston....

rocker
04-14-2009, 10:27 AM
i would trial every player that isn't a big name coming from a top league.

and since this guy isn't a big name coming from a top league, he should be trialed.

plus, you wanna get him working with Serioux, Jimmy and Wynne to see how they fit together.

Shaughno
04-14-2009, 10:30 AM
^^ Exactly. Team's trail players all the time, it's not an MLS thing.

stretchthetruth
04-14-2009, 10:31 AM
fair enough... maybe i just like his hair...

keem-o-sabi
04-14-2009, 10:32 AM
so the prez of his former club is his agent.... that's an interesting relationship

This happened when Vialli left one of his clubs, the president I think negotiated his contract with Juve I believe.

Pachuco
04-14-2009, 11:21 AM
Why are you answering for giambac, unless you're his sock puppet.

cause you are demanding a congratulations to Mo for bringing a guy (who most people know nothing about) in for a trial. Now that's funny ;)

TorontoBlades
04-14-2009, 11:25 AM
Why are you answering for giambac, unless you're his sock puppet.


sorry dude this is a public forum - if you wanted to convo directly with him there's a PM button I believe

bangersandmash
04-14-2009, 11:28 AM
Hey, I don't care if I don't know who he is. He's been blooded and survived in a strong, physical league (in CONCACAF terms). He can only help.

ginkster88
04-14-2009, 11:34 AM
Who really knew about Montero before this season? The fact that most of us have never heard of him is irrelevant.

TFC_Toon
04-14-2009, 11:36 AM
Has anyone seen this lad play before?

Chewy Unikronik
04-14-2009, 11:38 AM
Who really knew about Montero before this season? The fact that most of us have never heard of him is irrelevant.
Ding ding ding

Calvin
04-14-2009, 11:48 AM
Ding ding ding

plus this guy looks like he and montero have the same interests!

Ossington Mental Youth
04-14-2009, 11:49 AM
plus this guy looks like he and montero have the same interests!


sexual assault?
Itd be awesomer if our guy didnt

ginkster88
04-14-2009, 11:51 AM
Bloody hell. This sexual assault business is way overblown and smacks of attention-seeking on the part of the alleged victim. I can only hope this doesn't follow him throughout his career, but god knows it will.

Stouffville_RPB
04-14-2009, 11:52 AM
What are the chances we get him to be a participant in the Terry Fox headshave this year?

Seriously though, I think with everything I'm hearing about him he is exactly what we need. A big, strong, take charge defender.

Krasno.pL.
04-14-2009, 11:53 AM
one more day, and we'll find out

ginkster88
04-14-2009, 11:55 AM
He's not a transfer, so we can sign him at any time.

maninb
04-14-2009, 11:57 AM
In the videos on MLS rumors he looks like a MONSTER in the air...Both on offence and defence, 6'4 and MEAN!!!! F*cking LOVE this dude...Sign him MO!!!!!!!

Alarius
04-14-2009, 12:03 PM
In the videos on MLS rumors he looks like a MONSTER in the air...Both on offence and defence, 6'4 and MEAN!!!! F*cking LOVE this dude...Sign him MO!!!!!!!

no homo?

Krasno.pL.
04-14-2009, 12:10 PM
lol thanks Ginks.. thought u had to sign roster players. before . my bad
but yea, i signed this guy for my "Kitchener" team in the Cola 1 league in my Football Manager 09 game..
does pretty decent ;) lol

Oldtimer
04-14-2009, 12:16 PM
sorry dude this is a public forum - if you wanted to convo directly with him there's a PM button I believe

Point taken, and a lesson learned (never post in anger). I was a little over-the-top there.

brad
04-14-2009, 12:16 PM
Who really knew about Montero before this season? The fact that most of us have never heard of him is irrelevant.

Plenty of people knew about Montero. He was a hot South American prospect ripping apart a decent quality league. Teams in La Liga were rumored to be interested in him (which is where I first heard of him).

ginkster88
04-14-2009, 12:19 PM
I know that it isn't exactly the same case (and I'm surprised that it took this long for someone to point that out). The point is, just because we've never heard of a guy doesn't mean he won't be worth something. Let's wait and see what he brings to the pitch.

Yohan
04-14-2009, 12:29 PM
Nobody really knew about this Hurtado guy before Seattle signed him either.
I know AC Milan apparently was interested in him, but nobody here really paid attention.
A lot of gems in SA that aren't explored

I'm just saying ;)

Oldtimer
04-14-2009, 12:33 PM
Nobody really knew about this Hurtado guy before Seattle signed him either.
I know AC Milan apparently was interested in him, but nobody here really paid attention.
A lot of gems in SA that aren't explored

I'm just saying ;)

That's why everyone was ragging Mo in year 1 - because he seemed to be getting only British players. Now that he's got connections in Latin America, no-one is giving him credit for looking in a really good place to find inexpensive talent. Sure, the top of the top players are already scouted by Euro clubs, but MLS is not a top league, and there are some great finds every year making their way into MLS.

giambac
04-14-2009, 05:18 PM
So where are giambac's congratulations to MO? I want to see it!!!


when the deal gets done, IF IT GETS DONE, I will send my congratulations.

with our luck Mo will present the player to Carver for his input/views and Carver will take one look at him and say he isn't interested.

Don't count eggs until their hatched. We've seen this strory over and over agian.

Jeffro
04-14-2009, 05:55 PM
Perlaza is gone after today's practice, which he didn't take part in, and he's not coming back and will not be signed.

DOMIN8R
04-14-2009, 05:56 PM
no homo?

What kind of comment is that? How old are you? Tell me you're 12 yrs. old or younger.

LucaGol
04-14-2009, 05:56 PM
Perlaza is gone after today's practice, which he didn't take part in, and he's not coming back and will not be signed.

Add him to the insanely large and still growing list of trialists we've had.

Pachuco
04-14-2009, 05:57 PM
Perlaza is gone after today's practice, which he didn't take part in, and he's not coming back and will not be signed.

Hey OldTimer, that's why you don't count your chickens before they are hatched.

MG42
04-14-2009, 05:58 PM
when the deal gets done, IF IT GETS DONE, I will send my congratulations.

with our luck Mo will present the player to Carver for his input/views and Carver will take one look at him and say he isn't interested.

Don't count eggs until their hatched. We've seen this strory over and over agian.

and again...:lol:

H Bomb
04-14-2009, 05:59 PM
le sigh....

heres hoping tomorrow brings news

ginkster88
04-14-2009, 06:05 PM
I would love to know why this didn't happen. If it is anything other than he couldn't cut it, this is verging on farcical.

TFCREDNWHITE
04-14-2009, 06:05 PM
Perlaza is gone after today's practice, which he didn't take part in, and he's not coming back and will not be signed.

Do you know the reasons behind the decision??

Nuvinho
04-14-2009, 06:06 PM
This is frustrating!!! Where is the CB who we SOOOOO DESPERATELY NEED!!!

jloome
04-14-2009, 06:08 PM
no homo?

Dude, grow the fuck up, will ya?

Pachuco
04-14-2009, 06:08 PM
This is frustrating!!! Where is the CB who we SOOOOO DESPERATELY NEED!!!

What's scary is that obviously there is no plan. We are in full reactive mode at this point. We wouldn't be bringing in guys on trial, not having them practice and then sending them back home. Unless I hear tommorrow we are signing a CB, then there is no plan. How long ago did Mo say he would sign a CB and then he was done?

wzhxvy
04-14-2009, 06:09 PM
What the freak is going on ????????????

Nuvinho
04-14-2009, 06:10 PM
What's scary is that obviously there is no plan. We are in full reactive mode at this point. We wouldn't be bringing in guys on trial, not having them practice and then sending them back home. Unless I hear tommorrow we are signing a CB, then there is no plan. How long ago did Mo say he would sign a CB and then he was done?

Yes, it definately seems there is no plan, or the plan got derailed after someone turned us down (after we traded Marshall). The longer you go without a commanding CB, the more points we are losing.

Nuvinho
04-14-2009, 06:12 PM
How many of the trialists we got, trained with us for 1 day and left? Can they really show what they have in 1 day of training?

LucaGol
04-14-2009, 06:12 PM
Is it just me, or do other MLS clubs seem to be able to bring in players with greater relative ease then we do?

jloome
04-14-2009, 06:12 PM
There's been a story floating around my soccer contacts for over a month that TFC has someone signed, sealed, delivered at the end of the English season but the player is still under contract over there.

Given their newfound caution over leaks this year I haven't been able to get any more than that.

Pachuco
04-14-2009, 06:13 PM
Is it just me, or do other MLS clubs seem to be able to bring in players with greater relative ease then we do?

I'm not sure about that. I don't follow all rumours that relate to other teams. It sure is frustrating to follow TFC though :)

Nuvinho
04-14-2009, 06:16 PM
There's been a story floating around my soccer contacts for over a month that TFC has someone signed, sealed, delivered at the end of the English season but the player is still under contract over there.

Given their newfound caution over leaks this year I haven't been able to get any more than that.

Interesting. I was thinking that maybe the player signed is in relegation battle or FIGHTING for the EPL title (Hyypia??) [MLS rumors, please don't post this, its just my opinion or who I want]

Pachuco
04-14-2009, 06:18 PM
We also heard that mo had someone signed, sealed delivered, so he traded Marshall. Then lost that player. So at this point it's hard to believe anything.

rocker
04-14-2009, 06:23 PM
maybe that signed/sealed guy is being delivered and the Ecuadorian was told his services were not needed.

TFCREDNWHITE
04-14-2009, 06:24 PM
There's been a story floating around my soccer contacts for over a month that TFC has someone signed, sealed, delivered at the end of the English season but the player is still under contract over there.

Given their newfound caution over leaks this year I haven't been able to get any more than that.

Look i am in agreement with you, if what you heard is true, then it would be great!

but how many points will we lose in the mean time!? Will it be enough, or will it be too little too late...I mean the guy is theoretically coming off a full season in the EPL, and then has to perform for us??

I just don't know anymore........:o

InTheCrowd
04-14-2009, 06:32 PM
And we're left with a 23 man roster.

TFCREDNWHITE
04-14-2009, 06:34 PM
I wonder if the discovery claim houston had made this deal go sour...??

THA BUTCHA
04-14-2009, 06:42 PM
Watch this guy show up in Houston in the next couple of days.

I have a huge feeling MOJO didn't do his research.

and if this can be proven as true. TFC should CAN his ASS for incompetence.

Pachuco
04-14-2009, 06:51 PM
Watch this guy show up in Houston in the next couple of days.

I have a huge feeling MOJO didn't do his research.

and if this can be proven as true. TFC should CAN his ASS for incompetence.

When you look at the events and the news around it, this could possibly make sense. That would look pretty bad on Mo if that happened.

Pachuco
04-14-2009, 06:52 PM
maybe that signed/sealed guy is being delivered and the Ecuadorian was told his services were not needed.

Well, that's why I'll give Mo until tommorrow to make me believe that. If not one is signed by tommorrow that theory would be out the window.

ginkster88
04-14-2009, 06:52 PM
Watch this guy show up in Houston in the next couple of days.

I have a huge feeling MOJO didn't do his research.

and if this can be proven as true. TFC should CAN his ASS for incompetence.



I mentioned this as a possibility in the other thread and was vilified. I'm standing by it, I get a feeling Mo really blew it on this one.

Beach_Red
04-14-2009, 07:02 PM
What's scary is that obviously there is no plan. We are in full reactive mode at this point. We wouldn't be bringing in guys on trial, not having them practice and then sending them back home. Unless I hear tommorrow we are signing a CB, then there is no plan. How long ago did Mo say he would sign a CB and then he was done?


I think you just have to accept that MLS is a reactive league. It's not a league many players really want to play in and it's never anyone's first choice and you have to jump on players when they become available and are willing to come here. You can't pay transfer fees, you have to file discovery claims, there's this weird allocation order. It's just bizarre. But it is what it is.

Having a solid plan and the money to carry it out would be great, but it seems that to be successful in this league it's more important to react quickly to opportunity when it arises than to stick to some plan that you'll likely never get the chance to carry out.

ginkster88
04-14-2009, 07:03 PM
*cough* Seattle *cough*

Pachuco
04-14-2009, 07:26 PM
I think you just have to accept that MLS is a reactive league. It's not a league many players really want to play in and it's never anyone's first choice and you have to jump on players when they become available and are willing to come here. You can't pay transfer fees, you have to file discovery claims, there's this weird allocation order. It's just bizarre. But it is what it is.

Having a solid plan and the money to carry it out would be great, but it seems that to be successful in this league it's more important to react quickly to opportunity when it arises than to stick to some plan that you'll likely never get the chance to carry out.

I wouldn't be saying this if Marshall wasn't traded too soon. So knowing how this league is, the last thing you do is handicap your team until you've sealed the deal with another player.

Beach_Red
04-14-2009, 07:35 PM
I wouldn't be saying this if Marshall wasn't traded too soon. So knowing how this league is, the last thing you do is handicap your team until you've sealed the deal with another player.

Really? You say that based solely on the Marshall trade? Would we really be that much better with Marshall instead of Serioux - and you know with the cap we couldn't have both.

For all we know Marshall asked to be traded (doesn't he have a relationship with Seattle's coach?) and he was accomodated. It wouldn't be the first time something like that happened.

Stryker
04-14-2009, 08:17 PM
Perlaza is gone after today's practice, which he didn't take part in, and he's not coming back and will not be signed.

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb93/hottsego/Stewie_Griffin.jpg

wzhxvy
04-14-2009, 08:20 PM
Really? You say that based solely on the Marshall trade? Would we really be that much better with Marshall instead of Serioux - and you know with the cap we couldn't have both.

For all we know Marshall asked to be traded (doesn't he have a relationship with Seattle's coach?) and he was accomodated. It wouldn't be the first time something like that happened.

Are you serious ? Are you saying that we didnt have the cap room for Marshall's 100K and thats why we traded him ? Do you really believe that ?!?!!!

The Marshall trade was a freaking clear as day mistake. I refuse to believe it was anything but a premature act based on some other event that did not happen. Why he pulled the trigger then is something I can not forgive.

I am just so tired of this crap. As someone said, they made the assessment this guy is not good enough in 1 day ? I mean how could you do that ??? Carver has had over a year and he still has not figured out that Ricketts and Harmse suck !

I do not like Mo, I do not think (my distant perception) he is the kind of you want to deal with because you cant trust him. He is slippery if you know what I mean and I wonder how many deals fell through because of Mo's character or approach...no matter... if you dont trust the other guy, its hard to make a deal.

JonO
04-14-2009, 08:26 PM
Watch this guy show up in Houston in the next couple of days.

I have a huge feeling MOJO didn't do his research.

and if this can be proven as true. TFC should CAN his ASS for incompetence.
Not really sure what you mean by this... If Houston have a discovery claim on him then there's nothing we can do about it except try and obtain his rights from them.... In such a circumstance, trialing him to assess his value seems like a prudent move, no?

Beach_Red
04-14-2009, 08:28 PM
I am just so tired of this crap. As someone said, they made the assessment this guy is not good enough in 1 day ? I mean how could you do that ??? Carver has had over a year and he still has not figured out that Ricketts and Harmse suck !

I do not like Mo, I do not think (my distant perception) he is the kind of you want to deal with because you cant trust him. He is slippery if you know what I mean and I wonder how many deals fell through because of Mo's character or approach...no matter... if you dont trust the other guy, its hard to make a deal.

You may be 100% right.

But for all we know it was the guy who didn't like it here and left.

And really, you think sports agents trust anyone?

THA BUTCHA
04-14-2009, 08:42 PM
Not really sure what you mean by this... If Houston have a discovery claim on him then there's nothing we can do about it except try and obtain his rights from them.... In such a circumstance, trialing him to assess his value seems like a prudent move, no?

My comment was made under the assumption that MOJO didn't know there was a Discovery claim when he asked the player to come in for a tryout.

Now. I admit there is NO PROOF of this. But with Taking MY PERSONAL OPINION of the man (MOJO) It wouldn't surprise me if he didn't know.

If this player shows up in Houston ANY SENSIBLE REPORTER will and should start asking some TUFF QUESTIONS.

I would look forward to reading that story.

B

BuSaPuNk
04-14-2009, 08:49 PM
Just doing some digging here is a list of the "free agents" at the end of this year in England. Also has links for Spain and Italy.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2009/04/12/1183353/out-of-contract-players-in-england-free-to-move-this-summer (http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2009/04/12/1183353/out-of-contract-players-in-england-free-to-move-this-summer)

JonO
04-14-2009, 08:51 PM
If this player shows up in Houston ANY SENSIBLE REPORTER will and should start asking some TUFF QUESTIONS.

I must be slow tonight - I understand your theory (even though I don't necessarily agree with it), but what does that have to do with whether or not this guy shows up in Houston? (unless I am reading too much into the "if" in your statement...)

loconet
04-14-2009, 08:52 PM
Just doing some digging here is a list of the "free agents" at the end of this year in England. Also has links for Spain and Italy.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2009/04/12/1183353/out-of-contract-players-in-england-free-to-move-this-summer (http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2009/04/12/1183353/out-of-contract-players-in-england-free-to-move-this-summer)


Edgar then? :p

BuSaPuNk
04-14-2009, 08:55 PM
Edgar then? :p

You know what I thought the same thing. He really hasn't done much since being at Newcastle. So only makes sense to come back home and play well and try to get back to playing regualrly in europe.

InTheCrowd
04-14-2009, 08:58 PM
But why would he want to come back to North America at such a young age? That's like the worst move you can do for your career lol.

THA BUTCHA
04-14-2009, 09:02 PM
well this story only gets interesting when you find out WHEN houston made the discovery claim.

and

Was houston aware that TFC bought the player in for a trail?

if the answer is: A while ago and NO then you have a story
If the answer is recently and yes houston gave permission the TFC to trial the player.
Then I will take my TIN FOIL hat off :)

EDit:

really only one question needs to be answered.
DID HOUSTON GIVE PERMISSION TO TFC TO TRAIL THE PLAYER?

Nuvinho
04-14-2009, 09:04 PM
Hermann Hreidarsson
Sami Hyypia

2 'BIG' CBs.

Krasno.pL.
04-14-2009, 09:04 PM
David Edgars a good buddy of mine.
played with him from 10-16rysold
hes not coming to Toronto..
as of today anyways.

TFCREDNWHITE
04-14-2009, 09:12 PM
Edgar then? :p

Its gotta be Edgar or Owen! I say its gonna be either one of those two!

And from a make your money back, and guarantee people RENEW their seasons tickets for next year, I'm gonna go with OWEN!

Just think about how people would go crazy if they Signed Michael Owen!?

Performance is a whole different story(i mean with injuries and all)...But him just being at BMO Field would be great in and of itself...

Ossington Mental Youth
04-14-2009, 09:12 PM
Little bit disappointed that we arent going to sign Perlaza, wonder what happened, i wonder if he wanted toomuch money or something

TFCREDNWHITE
04-14-2009, 09:13 PM
David Edgars a good buddy of mine.
played with him from 10-16rysold
hes not coming to Toronto..
as of today anyways.


Perfect, more fuel to the Michael Owen fire then....

jloome
04-14-2009, 09:16 PM
Didn't make sense to sign him unless his English was excellent. If we're looking for a big centre back who can marshall the backline, they can't have the same language issues as with Guevara and vitti, because he has to be barking out instructions all game long to his fellow defenders.

Krasno.pL.
04-14-2009, 09:16 PM
yea, guess we gotta wait till July to find out... lol
ill make sure this weekend to have a chat with Edgar again on Toronto..
as he said before... that would be a "stepback" in his career

S_D
04-14-2009, 09:19 PM
well this story only gets interesting when you find out WHEN houston made the discovery claim.

and

Was houston aware that TFC bought the player in for a trail?

if the answer is: A while ago and NO then you have a story
If the answer is recently and yes houston gave permission the TFC to trial the player.
Then I will take my TIN FOIL hat off :)

EDit:

really only one question needs to be answered.
DID HOUSTON GIVE PERMISSION TO TFC TO TRAIL THE PLAYER?

This has happened before between Chicago and NYRB. Have a read of these links, gives you an insight on how whacky the Discovery claim is. By the looks of it you don't have to ask permission for a player to train with your team if they are on a discovery list.

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/soccer_redcard/2008/03/fires-stance-on.html

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/soccer_redcard/2008/04/hamlett-fire-ha.html

http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_by_ives/2009/01/mls-hot-stove-marmol-leaves-fire-houston-waits-on-ngwenya-and-no-dp-rush-for-kc.html

BuSaPuNk
04-14-2009, 09:25 PM
yea, guess we gotta wait till July to find out... lol
ill make sure this weekend to have a chat with Edgar again on Toronto..
as he said before... that would be a "stepback" in his career

I understand where everyone gets the step back from and I agree it would be. However wouldn't it be better to come to the MLS and dominate and show his skill and then be courted by a European team?

Mabey I'm just wishing for snow in July? :rolleyes:

Krasno.pL.
04-14-2009, 09:29 PM
LOL
no it would make complete sense, cause instead of playing reserves or riding the pine (even tho Shearer's giving him a run) he would play everygame here.. is Canadian (grew up in Kitchener) and i think he'd want around the same $ as Dero maybe less..
who knows man. i should just email his agent and ask :) haha Barry McClain (sp) is a douche

BuSaPuNk
04-14-2009, 09:34 PM
It would make sense....but would he do it? I hope he can stay in Newcastle (being a Newcastle supporter) they sure could use his services. Oh well MoJo has a way of surprising us now and again. Hopefully he can do it to bring in a soild CB or DP.

H Bomb
04-14-2009, 09:37 PM
Sorry dude...but Michael Owen wont happen. I'd love it more than most things but he'll get a job in a top ten premiership side and continue to score like he always does. He's simply too good for this league.

BuSaPuNk
04-14-2009, 09:43 PM
It's just surprising that before Carver said that there going to keep things to themselves there were names flying all over the place. Now it's like were being kept in the dark and really it's scary. You don't really know if there working on getting someone and there close or running around like a chicken with it's head cut off.

THA BUTCHA
04-14-2009, 09:43 PM
i read the links

Looks like Marmol was never able to join RBNY since Chicago owned the rights thou the coach was aware of this.

OK. So lets say MOJO knew Perlaza rights were owned by Houston. Why would he trial Perlaza knowing he couldn't sign him without Compensating Houston.
Why not Trai someone else, with less baggage.

Look how long the MCBRIDE situation took to sort itself out.
Do we really need another situation like that. BUT REVERSED.

I THINK MOJO IS A GOOF Whichever way you look at it.

Yohan
04-14-2009, 09:44 PM
Just doing some digging here is a list of the "free agents" at the end of this year in England. Also has links for Spain and Italy.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2009/04/12/1183353/out-of-contract-players-in-england-free-to-move-this-summer (http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2009/04/12/1183353/out-of-contract-players-in-england-free-to-move-this-summer)
Some yummy and not totally out of reach players
-Tugay: may be old and has like no pace now, but dude can spray pinpoint passes still
-Mineiro aka Belletti: dude is good enough to play for Barca and Chelski. Can play RB, RW and CM/DM.
-Danny Murphy: English version of Guevara? If not resigned, probably end up playing in Championship I'd think
-Cacapa: was the glue that held Olympic Lyonnais defence for many years before disappearing in Newcastle reserves
-Mark Viduka: injury issues aside, and may be tempted to go to Oz A league, but good target man striker
-Nwanko Kanu: basically Nigerian Danny Dichio
-Diego Tristan: former Spanish international with decent scoring ability


Some from spain and italy (and a lot of wishful thinking)
-Maniche:
-Fabio Cannavaro:
-Fernando Morientes:
-Davide Baiocco:
-Martin Jorgensen:
-Marco di Vaio:
-Julio Cruz:
-Hernan Crespo:
-Emerson:
-Christian Panucci:

S_D
04-14-2009, 09:54 PM
i read the links

Looks like Marmol was never able to join RBNY since Chicago owned the rights thou the coach was aware of this.

OK. So lets say MOJO knew Perlaza rights were owned by Houston. Why would he trial Perlaza knowing he couldn't sign him without Compensating Houston.
Why not Trai someone else, with less baggage.

Look how long the MCBRIDE situation took to sort itself out.
Do we really need another situation like that. BUT REVERSED.

I THINK MOJO IS A GOOF Whichever way you look at it.

Well there is a little bit of animosity between Chicago and NY FO which I am sure played a role in all of it.

I would assume that as mentioned before, got to see if he is worth trading the rights for via trial.

McBride was a bit different. He was a returning MLS player who would only play for Chicago yet TFC had the allocation rights. Chicago whined, they both played hardball and we ended up with Barrett. As far as anyone knows Perlaza wasn't insisting on playing anywhere.

Will be interesting to find out why he left or was asked to leave. Jeffro get busy :D

Ossington Mental Youth
04-14-2009, 10:06 PM
Didn't make sense to sign him unless his English was excellent. If we're looking for a big centre back who can marshall the backline, they can't have the same language issues as with Guevara and vitti, because he has to be barking out instructions all game long to his fellow defenders.


aha
had crossed my mind previously
very good point

greatwhitenorf
04-14-2009, 10:10 PM
Wow.

Why read reports from people who are PAID to cover the game when you can gain this much insight on the game and the people who operate it by opening these threads?

This must be the soccer equivalent of life in Haight-Asbury, circa 1968.

InTheCrowd
04-14-2009, 10:10 PM
Chicago whined, they both played hardball and we ended up with Barrett.

We ended up with Barrett, a first round draft pick and allocation money. To be honest, I'm happy with that in return for McBride.


Didn't make sense to sign him unless his English was excellent. If we're looking for a big centre back who can marshall the backline, they can't have the same language issues as with Guevara and vitti, because he has to be barking out instructions all game long to his fellow defenders.

Well, you don't really need a big vocabulary to command a back line.

ExiledRed
04-14-2009, 10:24 PM
Most trialists balk after they come to BMO and not before while theyre trying out in Florida.

Is it the cold this time of year? Is the city not pretty enough? Is the sight of the CN tower emasculating? or is it the first impression they get when running on an uneven, overused plastic rug, laid on top of aggregate?

brad
04-14-2009, 10:42 PM
Most trialists balk after they come to BMO and not before while theyre trying out in Florida.

Is it the cold this time of year? Is the city not pretty enough? Is the sight of the CN tower emasculating? or is it the first impression they get when running on an uneven, overused plastic rug, laid on top of aggregate?

Or was the player who up until recently played for a bottom of the league team in Ecuador simply not good enough...

Roogsy
04-14-2009, 10:51 PM
Most trialists balk after they come to BMO and not before while theyre trying out in Florida.

Is it the cold this time of year? Is the city not pretty enough? Is the sight of the CN tower emasculating? or is it the first impression they get when running on an uneven, overused plastic rug, laid on top of aggregate?

My understanding was that his trial was simply not impressive.

bhoybobby
04-14-2009, 11:00 PM
Are you serious ? Are you saying that we didnt have the cap room for Marshall's 100K and thats why we traded him ? Do you really believe that ?!?!!!

The Marshall trade was a freaking clear as day mistake. I refuse to believe it was anything but a premature act based on some other event that did not happen. Why he pulled the trigger then is something I can not forgive.

I am just so tired of this crap. As someone said, they made the assessment this guy is not good enough in 1 day ? I mean how could you do that ??? Carver has had over a year and he still has not figured out that Ricketts and Harmse suck !

I do not like Mo, I do not think (my distant perception) he is the kind of you want to deal with because you cant trust him. He is slippery if you know what I mean and I wonder how many deals fell through because of Mo's character or approach...no matter... if you dont trust the other guy, its hard to make a deal.

There was never any justification given for Marshall being dumped, he's a very good defender. Harmse is a disgrace at this level, I can't believe that carthorse gets a look.

That's what happens when you have people like Mo & Assembly, with no success or track record making key decisions.

s2cazz
04-14-2009, 11:02 PM
I think Mo is really fucking up... I just hope Carver doesn't take the blame....

Gixmo
04-14-2009, 11:06 PM
Nuno Valente anyone...?

reggie
04-14-2009, 11:15 PM
what's next Mo McClain....draft smaft...

Laurignano
04-14-2009, 11:46 PM
Here is his stats on football manager 2009 http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/6498/joseluis.jpg

nick.mastro
04-15-2009, 12:02 AM
you want an amazing defender, sign Panucci or Cannavaro as our CB and we're settttt :P

but 150% not sigining the equadorian defender? was excited about him :(

Krasno.pL.
04-15-2009, 12:02 AM
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9031/josel.png^^what year did u do that search in??
i searched him in 2012
and he was listed at 5"11 soo means he shrinks over the years? haha
i love this game

joshpa
04-15-2009, 07:05 AM
so as per my "breaking news" thread in a thread i just made.. (I was clearly not paying attention last night)

It turns out that it was contractual problems. He's on his way back to Ecuador.

Nuvinho
04-15-2009, 08:32 AM
Going back to jloome's post - If Mo has a CB signed from England already, why not announce it? If the deal is done on paper, its official? What can go wrong?

I don't think its official, I think its another situation, similiar to Huckerby. Where he'll come to the City, look around, and let Mo know what he decides.

Boris
04-15-2009, 10:55 AM
now there gonna sign that no good University homo

language like that will NOT be tolerated
consider this your verbal warning

Krasno.pL.
04-15-2009, 11:03 AM
my bad bigman
ill use "loser"

nimamalek
04-15-2009, 11:07 AM
language like that will NOT be tolerated
consider this your verbal warning

yes I think the politically correct term now is "ghey" :)

trane
04-15-2009, 11:29 AM
My understanding was that his trial was simply not impressive.


This is happening way too much, I do not know if he is any good or not, but do they not watch film on guys they bring in to trial. None of them seem to work out.

BakaGaijin
04-15-2009, 11:33 AM
Apparantly, he signed with Barcelona SC yesterday. That would pretty much be the cause of the "trial" ending.

jloome
04-15-2009, 11:37 AM
Going back to jloome's post - If Mo has a CB signed from England already, why not announce it? If the deal is done on paper, its official? What can go wrong?

I don't think its official, I think its another situation, similiar to Huckerby. Where he'll come to the City, look around, and let Mo know what he decides.

While that seems to make more sense to me, too, it wasn't what I'd heard. Maybe it's contingent on something -- work permit when he as prior, or like you say, not getting a better offer in the meantime.

As has been stated here before, there's a perception among some MLS veterans that Mo is in way over his head, so it might just be him saying "it's a done deal," when it's not actually a done deal.

Or, maybe it's crap. I dunno. But the sources in question haven't been wrong before.

jloome
04-15-2009, 11:39 AM
Apparantly, he signed with Barcelona SC yesterday. That would pretty much be the cause of the "trial" ending.

It's Kiki and Dickov, part 3. He found out our offer, got them to better it and went home.

jloome
04-15-2009, 11:42 AM
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9031/josel.png^^what year did u do that search in??
i searched him in 2012
and he was listed at 5"11 soo means he shrinks over the years? haha
i love this game

South American data in it has never been reliable. The less actual scouted data they have (and they have so much on Euro leagues that Everton bought rights to the Database) the more they substitute random numbers for some stats. It looks like in his case they didn't have his personal stats or an idea of his speed and movement.

But if you extrapolate the marking, tackling and positioning stats forward three years from the "12s" on the other page, that stays static. They probably had something simple on him, like a couple of Fifa international game sheets.

joshpa
04-15-2009, 12:01 PM
Apparantly, he signed with Barcelona SC yesterday. That would pretty much be the cause of the "trial" ending.


ill look into that.. but if thats the case, i understand. I would do it. They're one of the richest and most succesful clubs in south america. you should check out their fanbase sur oscura too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gRHfpQfOOo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4qxmuMIOKA&feature=related

epic..

BakaGaijin
04-15-2009, 12:42 PM
Barcelona anunció la contratación del zaguero central José Luis Perlaza, quien llegará al país en los próximos días para integrarse al plantel canario. Fue inscrito y habilitado por el Comité Ejecutivo.

http://www.expreso.ec/ediciones/2009/04/15/deportes/perlaza-y-ordonez-jugaran-en-el-pais/Default.asp