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Batman
04-04-2009, 07:32 AM
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sports/2008982337_montero04.html

Sounders FC's Montero under investigation

Prosecutors are considering criminal charges against Seattle Sounders FC soccer star Fredy Montero after a 23-year-old Bellevue woman reported that he raped her twice, according to police reports.
By Mike Carter (http://search.nwsource.com/search?searchtype=cq&sort=date&from=ST&byline=Mike%20Carter)
Seattle Times staff reporter

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Read the police report (PDF): Location (in red) redacted by Seattle Times staff (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2009/04/03/2008982423.pdf)
Archive | Sounders FC star Montero investigated in sexual-assault case (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2008980395_webfredy03m.html)




Prosecutors are reviewing allegations against Seattle Sounders FC soccer star Fredy Montero after a 23-year-old Bellevue woman reported that he raped her twice, according to police reports.
An incident report released late Friday by the Bellevue Police Department identified Montero as the suspect in the case. A summary states, "Victim [name redacted] reported she was raped twice by [suspect] Montero on 3/15 and 3/22."
The report contained no additional details. Bellevue police attorney Kyle Aiken said the city attorney's office was reviewing other police documents, which likely would be released next week.
All of the material has been forwarded to the King County Prosecutor's Office to determine if charges should be filed, according to Bellevue Police spokesman Greg Grannis.
Montero, from Colombia, is the leading scorer for Sounders FC and was recently named Major League Soccer's player of the month.
The investigation includes allegations that Montero, 21, stalked the victim a week after the second alleged assault occurred, according to a report released Friday by the King County Sheriff's Office. That report references an alleged sexual assault on March 22. The Bellevue report is the first indication the woman might have been assaulted before.
The soccer player's "host family" told detectives later, however, that Montero's presence in the neighborhood was a coincidence.
A relative of the 23-year-old woman who said she was assaulted, who asked to not be identified, said the woman and Montero knew each other but that "calling it a relationship would be way, way out there." He declined to say what the woman told Bellevue police regarding the alleged March 22 assault and he did not mention an assault on March 15.
The relative said the family had been frustrated and went to the media when the Sounders announced that Montero was sick with the flu and wouldn't be traveling to Toronto.
Sounders FC's stance on the situation is in a statement from the team:
"We are aware of the situation and continue to gather information. We fully support Fredy and expect him to play next week. We will have no further comment at this time."
A team spokesman said Montero was not on the team flight to Toronto on Thursday morning because he had the flu and was too sick to fly Friday. He will not play in today's match against Toronto FC.


King County Prosecutor's spokesman Dan Donohoe, asked about the Montero case, would say only that it "has been referred to our office by the Bellevue Police Department for review."
The King County report states that on Tuesday, the 23-year-old woman was stopped in the southbound lanes of an intersection in Bellevue and was about to make a U-turn when she saw her alleged attacker — Montero — "sitting in the front passenger seat of his vehicle" heading north. The woman made her turn and then slowed to allow the vehicle carrying Montero to pass. The man "leaned back in the seat in an attempt to hide," the report says.
But a detective who spoke with the host family with whom Montero was staying was told that sighting "was simply a coincidence."

Batman
04-04-2009, 07:35 AM
This is pretty serious stuff!

I think right now the guy has a bit more than just a case of the flu!

I always hate how teams say "We completely support ______ " when they have no idea what happened.

martina
04-04-2009, 07:38 AM
holy sh!t... I was actually looking forward in seeing this kid play, but wow! what the heck

loconet
04-04-2009, 07:39 AM
From stalking to rape? holy crap.

TFC_Toon
04-04-2009, 07:41 AM
"A team spokesman said Montero was not on the team flight to Toronto on Thursday morning because he had the flu and was too sick to fly Friday. He will not play in today's match against Toronto FC."

The lad seems to be in some bother for sure, too early to tell the full extent though.
As far as the match is concerned this is good news for us.

Batman
04-04-2009, 07:45 AM
This is pretty serious stuff!

I think right now the guy has a bit more than just a case of the flu!

I always hate how teams say "We completely support ______ " when they have no idea what happened. They never seem to have any regard for the victim.

TFC_Toon
04-04-2009, 07:48 AM
They never seem to have any regard for the victim.

I hear you Pat, it's a business and they are looking after their asset, but in the end with something like this, if found guilty his career could very well be short lived.

Again, too early to tell I suppose.

Ladies Love Julius James
04-04-2009, 07:48 AM
Kobe Bryant
Robbie Alomar
The Duke Lacrosse team
Penn State running back
Santa Ana college football players


alll not guility. I suspect Montero in the same boat and that's with the limited knowledge we have.

Batman
04-04-2009, 07:51 AM
Kobe Bryant
Robbie Alomar
The Duke Lacrosse team
Penn State running back
Santa Ana college football players


alll not guility. I suspect Montero in the same boat and that's with the limited knowledge we have.

That's a big jump to conclusion. Because some people some where are found innocent, you think this guys innocent?

Red CB Toronto
04-04-2009, 07:54 AM
Having worked for two pro sports teams in this country, teams will always support their own until the last possible minute, at which point they can't, it really comes down to the dynamics of the situation, for instance salary caps can come into play, feelings of the public, and just how it is effecting the team as a whole.

But support out of the gate will always be there.

Batman
04-04-2009, 07:56 AM
Having worked for two pro sports teams in this country, teams will always support their own until the last possible minute, at which point they can't, it really comes down to the dynamics of the situation, for instance salary caps can come into play, feelings of the public, and just how it is effecting the team as a whole.

But support out of the gate will always be there.

Absolutely agree. We've seen it hundreds of times.
But, it just doesn't mean it's right.

An immediate assumption of innocence just because a dude is on a sports team, or is an asset, or as previous message stated, some other guys on sports teams were found innocent just seems to me to be callous, nieve and self serving, with no regard for the victim.

I believe what would make more sense would be to say "We understand the accusations are serious, and we reserve further comment until the investigation is completed" That's it.

Ladies Love Julius James
04-04-2009, 08:00 AM
That's a big jump to conclusion. Because some people some where are found innocent, you think this guys innocent?


Of those 168 allegations, involving 164 athletes, only 22 saw their cases go to trial, and only six cases resulted in convictions. In another 46 cases, a plea agreement was reached. Combined with the six athletes convicted at trial and one who pleaded guilty as charged, that gives the athletes a 32% total conviction rate in the resolved cases.


http://www.usatoday.com/sports/2003-12-21-athletes-sexual-assault_x.htm


innocent or not, the odds are in his favor.

Batman
04-04-2009, 08:09 AM
Of those 168 allegations, involving 164 athletes, only 22 saw their cases go to trial, and only six cases resulted in convictions. In another 46 cases, a plea agreement was reached. Combined with the six athletes convicted at trial and one who pleaded guilty as charged, that gives the athletes a 32% total conviction rate in the resolved cases.


http://www.usatoday.com/sports/2003-12-21-athletes-sexual-assault_x.htm


innocent or not, the odds are in his favor.

Based upon those facts, I agree with your final statement. The odds are in his favour.

But also, in his case, he will be investigated, and one way or another proven guilty or not guilty...and that's why I don't like to just jump on the team bandwagon and assume innocence.

TheRenter
04-04-2009, 08:11 AM
They never seem to have any regard for the victim.

well, at least we're not jumping to conclusions:D

this is some pretty serious stuff however

Boudge
04-04-2009, 08:11 AM
Well that sux, I am glad I didn't take him in my fantasy pool ;)

Batman
04-04-2009, 08:13 AM
well, at least we're not jumping to conclusions:D

this is some pretty serious stuff however

Perry Fucking Mason:rolleyes::D:D

ensco
04-04-2009, 08:41 AM
Obviously there is not much to base an opinion on, but I'd just make the observation that that fact that he allegedly raped the victim twice is an unusual fact.

If a date rape drug wasn't involved, it increases the odds that Montero is innocent. Not just because rich people get off, but because he actually might be innocent.

Let's see what the facts are. I wouldn't condemn anyone for supporting him, at this point.

Batman
04-04-2009, 08:47 AM
Obviously there is not much to base an opinion on, but I'd just make the observation that that fact that he allegedly raped the victim twice is an unusual fact.

If a date rape drug wasn't involved, it increases the odds that Montero is innocent. Not just because rich people get off, but because he actually might be innocent.

Let's see what the facts are. I wouldn't condemn anyone for supporting him, at this point.

I agree, that's a bit weird.

Batman
04-04-2009, 08:56 AM
I moved this to the News section. I probably should have put it there in the first place.

Mojo
04-04-2009, 09:01 AM
Hmmm, he probably doesn't have the flu. Hes probably restricted from leaving the state.

Eastend
04-04-2009, 09:03 AM
Based upon those facts, I agree with your final statement. The odds are in his favour.

But also, in his case, he will be investigated, and one way or another proven guilty or not guilty...and that's why I don't like to just jump on the team bandwagon and assume innocence.

Not saying he didn't do it but.....innocent until proven guilty, no?


Obviously there is not much to base an opinion on, but I'd just make the observation that that fact that he allegedly raped the victim twice is an unusual fact.

If a date rape drug wasn't involved, it increases the odds that Montero is innocent. Not just because rich people get off, but because he actually might be innocent.

Let's see what the facts are. I wouldn't condemn anyone for supporting him, at this point.

I was wondering the same thing.

djking2
04-04-2009, 09:03 AM
An immediate assumption of innocence just because a dude is on a sports team, or is an asset, or as previous message stated, some other guys on sports teams were found innocent just seems to me to be callous, nieve and self serving, with no regard for the victim.

I believe what would make more sense would be to say "We understand the accusations are serious, and we reserve further comment until the investigation is completed" That's it.

The presumption of innocence is one of the foundations of the legal system in most of the developed world and is the right of any individual regardless of social status. I'm not sure how you see this as self serving but I can assure you the only callousness or naivete I see is on your part. You seem rather quick to defend the alleged victim who remains anonymous with little regard for the impact on Montero who may have to deal with the fallout from these allegations for years whether proven guilty or not.

MUFC_Niagara
04-04-2009, 09:04 AM
Hmmm, he probably doesn't have the flu. Hes probably restricted from leaving the state.

Yup....the police probably have his passport!

ginkster88
04-04-2009, 09:05 AM
They never seem to have any regard for the victim.

...or perhaps Montero is the victim here? False rape accusations can do an incredible amount of harm.

Her story is a bit fishy to me... two alleged incidents, a week apart, and she neglected to mention one of them in her original report?

Whatever happened to "innocent until proven guilty"?

Batman
04-04-2009, 09:10 AM
...or perhaps Montero is the victim here? False rape accusations can do an incredible amount of harm.

Her story is a bit fishy to me... two alleged incidents, a week apart, and she neglected to mention one of them in her original report?

Whatever happened to "innocent until proven guilty"?

Yes, as POINTED OUT EARLIER ;) I probably should have said "alleged victim".

Batman
04-04-2009, 09:13 AM
The presumption of innocence is one of the foundations of the legal system in most of the developed world and is the right of any individual regardless of social status. I'm not sure how you see this as self serving but I can assure you the only callousness or naivete I see is on your part. You seem rather quick to defend the alleged victim who remains anonymous with little regard for the impact on Montero who may have to deal with the fallout from these allegations for years whether proven guilty or not.

I probably wasn't clear on my point, as I didn't really think it needed additional explaining.

I wasn't accusing people here of being naive, callous or self serving. (as you now unfortunately are)

My comments were in regard to the team making the statements.
Self Serving - regarding serving the teams interests.
Naive - To assume their guy is automatically innocent.
Callous - having no regard for the alleged victim while defending their man.

My point was that they should simply announce they await the investigation, not just automatically defend him. By automatically defending him, they are acting in the manner I just described.

That's what those points were referring to.

djking2
04-04-2009, 09:30 AM
Actually I thought you were pretty clear. I think you've let your support of TFC cloud your judgement and if it were a TFC player that stood accused you wouldn't be too happy if MLSE threw him under the bus

By the way accusations of callousness and naivete are rather mild for this board don't ya think? No offense to you my friend I just think you're wrong

Batman
04-04-2009, 09:41 AM
Actually I thought you were pretty clear. I think you've let your support of TFC cloud your judgement and if it were a TFC player that stood accused you wouldn't be too happy if MLSE threw him under the bus

By the way accusations of callousness and naivete are rather mild for this board don't ya think? No offense to you my friend I just think you're wrong

No problem and you are entitled to your opinion too.

On your first part, actually not true. I have always felt it was wrong for a team to automatically defend their guy. The so called "code" etc. I think they should neither defend nor "throw under the bus". They should stick with saying we await the investigation etc. and leave it at that.

Damien
04-04-2009, 09:43 AM
Fuck, his career ended before it barely started if any of this shit is true.

troy1982
04-04-2009, 09:45 AM
I have a hard time understanding why the woman's name is redacted, but Montero's can be spread all over the place.

I was taken aback by the comment that the women was pissed that Montero was said to be out with the blue, so she decided to alert the media. Not exactly a normal course of action for a victim in this case (rape victim seeking media publicity).. Almost as if she was seeking some sort of attention here

troy1982
04-04-2009, 09:45 AM
Fuck, his career ended before it barely started if any of this shit is true.

I don't think his career is over but i am 100% certain he will leave MLS in the summer just to get away from all this mess.

ginkster88
04-04-2009, 09:48 AM
I have a hard time understanding why the woman's name is redacted, but Montero's can be spread all over the place.

That's how it always works.

P-Dub's
04-04-2009, 10:01 AM
If this is all true it will kill Seattle first season, too bad

ginkster88
04-04-2009, 10:12 AM
^^ I dunno... Zakuni is looking pretty good.

S_D
04-04-2009, 10:27 AM
I have a hard time understanding why the woman's name is redacted, but Montero's can be spread all over the place.

I was taken aback by the comment that the women was pissed that Montero was said to be out with the blue, so she decided to alert the media. Not exactly a normal course of action for a victim in this case (rape victim seeking media publicity).. Almost as if she was seeking some sort of attention here

It is unfortunate that this has happened. One thing I don't really like is the attempt to sway public opinion to make an individual seem guilty before it has ever been taken to court. It is something we see every day though in the news.

ensco
04-04-2009, 11:05 AM
If you check the police report (which is a link to the story) the alleged rapes occurred on two different days, 3/15 and 3/22.

That seems really weird to me.

Obviously we don't knoiw everything, but the kid really may be innocent.

wzhxvy
04-04-2009, 11:14 AM
There is something to be said to keeping it in your pants in the first month with a new team, new city etc...these guys need to be sheltered early on.

Who knows what happened here, but I am not ready to convict the guy and until he is proven guilty he should be supported 100% by the team

alexintoronto
04-04-2009, 11:21 AM
I was thinking a funny banner mocking him as a stalker would be a good idea. But rape isn't a laughing matter. A banner condeming him could have been good -but it's not proven so that's a bad idea too. What a disaster for Seattle.

Strikers
04-04-2009, 11:32 AM
This case is weird. I'll just wait until the investigation is done.

Don Julio
04-04-2009, 11:38 AM
Montero
She said no!
Montero
She said no!

Shame he couldn't make it - we could have had some real fun.

Wighty
04-04-2009, 11:47 AM
The detective spelled "Colombia" wrong on the police report.

ginkster88
04-04-2009, 11:49 AM
Montero
She said no!
Montero
She said no!

Shame he couldn't make it - we could have had some real fun.

Sorry, but... just, no.

If the allegations were true, we would be mocking the victim.

If they were false, we would be mocking victims of false rape accusations everywhere. There are a lot of men who have had their lives ruined, with no compensation from or penalty to their lying accusers.

maninb
04-04-2009, 12:26 PM
Kinda off topic with regards to Montero...but Alomar was a SCUMBAG and that's why he was run out of town, and kicked out of his residence at the Skydome hotel...they could only stomach so much of his antics with juvenile girls...

StandUpIfYouHateChelsea
04-04-2009, 01:37 PM
Fuck this publicity snatching bitch, wouldnt be surprised if bill archer was behind this BS. :mad:

StandUpIfYouHateChelsea
04-04-2009, 01:40 PM
this is a joke , if any of you know colombia, you dont see stalking or rape there , its not that kinda place. This is just an attempt to ruin him ..... im pissed !!! i wanted to see a good match today, now we will just crush them! =P

bhoybobby
04-04-2009, 08:04 PM
The whole Sounders team should be up on charges after the raping they gave us today, although, it looked consensual to me.

Toronto_Bhoy
04-04-2009, 08:42 PM
^^Post of the day!^^

wzhxvy
04-04-2009, 08:57 PM
Good one bobby

FluSH
04-04-2009, 10:08 PM
damn...

his career down the drain.... 26 goals in Colimbia... 3 goals in two games here in the MLS... and 2 rapes... what was he thinking???

TFCREDNWHITE
04-05-2009, 01:58 AM
Fuck with this kid in the game today we would have lost 4-nil....

alexintoronto
04-05-2009, 07:25 AM
Kinda off topic with regards to Montero...but Alomar was a SCUMBAG and that's why he was run out of town, and kicked out of his residence at the Skydome hotel...they could only stomach so much of his antics with juvenile girls...

Apparently Alomar got raped once too.

Pachuco
04-05-2009, 11:20 AM
I agree with Ensco, this story is a bit too fishy. He rapes a girl one day. She says nothing. Then he rapes her again a week later? How the fuck does she get close enough to him to be raped again? Unless he's being charged with breaking and entering or kidnapping as well (which I've see nothing of the sort) then she obviously went out willingly with the guy again after he supposively raped her.

I think there's still alot more to this story that we haven't heard.

eustacchio
04-05-2009, 11:33 AM
Yes, as POINTED OUT EARLIER ;) I probably should have said "alleged victim".

I don't think it really matters whether you said alleged or not. In a court of law, adding "alleged" does not protect the writer or news organization from libel suits. In the police report, she is the victim and Montero is the rapist, plain and simple. Whether or not it's true has yet to be proven.


I have a hard time understanding why the woman's name is redacted, but Montero's can be spread all over the place.

In sexaul assault cases, it's the victim's right to have her/his name withheld. At any time, the victim can change her/his mind one way or the other and back again.

ExiledRed
04-05-2009, 12:01 PM
The whole Sounders team should be up on charges after the raping they gave us today, although, it looked consensual to me.

oh mate, that got me laughing. thanks!

djking2
04-05-2009, 01:12 PM
Well done bhoybobby