No Montero On Sat!?!

[egoodwin]

http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlesports/archives/165604.asp

Montero may miss Sounders' road debut Saturday
New Sounders FC sensation Fredy Montero didn't make the flight to Toronto with his teammates Thursday and may miss the franchise's road debut due to illness, a team spokesman said.
If Montero's condition improves, he could rejoin the team Friday, but that remains up in the air. Montero left practice early on Wednesday and was still not feeling well enough to fly when the team departed.
The Sounders play at Toronto on Saturday at 1 p.m.
Montero, a 21-year-old forward from Columbia, has scored three goals in the Sounders' first two games and was named Major League Soccer's Player of the Month for March.

[trane]

He hered Dichio may be starting and he got scared.

[ginkster88]

wooooohoooooooooo!!!!

I kind of wanted to see him up close, but I don't mind this at all!!

[MUFC_Niagara]

Sweet good for us! And the reporter needs to learn how to spell Colombia, when referring to the country!

[jrey]

Yeah... personally I wouldn't mind if this was true. TFC to win it, baby!

[flatpicker]

this would be ok with me!

[devioustrevor]

Sweet good for us! And the reporter needs to learn how to spell Colombia, when referring to the country!

Maybe he thought Montero was an Ivy League grad.

[jloome]

You can bet carver will be preparing as if he'll be there. Sigi's no dummy, he knows where defenses will be looking from now on in.

[dantdot]

It's a trap!

[devioustrevor]

He hered Dichio may be starting and he got scared.

So Montero is David Beckham in disguise?

[ThunderTundra]

It's a trap!

http://clobbergirl.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/admiral-ackbar.jpg

But seriously, I think its a way to get carver to change strategy, only to release him on game day

[CretanBull]

I'd like to see him play, but good news for TFC!!

[trane]

You can bet carver will be preparing as if he'll be there. Sigi's no dummy, he knows where defenses will be looking from now on in.

Damn right. Prepare for the worse, hope for the best.

[TFCREDNWHITE]

I hope he doesn't play!!!

[ensco]

Not many professional athletes are so sick they can't even make the flight.

[DOMIN8R]

http://www.gsinme.com/Portals/0/hurray.gif

[Lucky Strike]

Hmm, that gives me 45 minutes to decide whether to play him in my fantasy league this week or not.

[grimm]

LMAO @ Thunder!!!
great image!

[shawn6597]

who is fredy montero?

whats your name, who gives a shit
whats your name, who gives a shit

but seriously, good news for tfc, no wait fuck him

who gives a shit

3-2 toronto regardless

[RedRum]

Not many professional athletes are so sick they can't even make the flight.

No kidding. Unless you have a collapsed lung or are on your deathbed you go with the team.

Something is up. Strategy? Serious illness? Conflict over pay? Personal matter?

[Derko]

Strategy, but JC won't fall for it!!

[Technorgasm]

I smell bullshit.


In Concrete Carver we we trust!!!!

[scooter]

I smell bullshit.


In Concrete Carver we we trust!!!!

i call bullshit and raise you 2

[MFG1]

http://clobbergirl.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/admiral-ackbar.jpg

But seriously, I think its a way to get carver to change strategy, only to release him on game day

Please tell me someone on here watched The Big BanG Theroy this week when Sheldon kept repeating this telling Penny about Admiral Ackbar!

[Pigfynn]

^^I did, it was really funny

[ExiledRed]

http://www.evilmilk.com/pictures/Its_A_Trap97.jpg

[ExiledRed]

Couldn't help it....sorry

[FluSH]

hahahaah oooh man

[dantdot]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh...nooooooooooooooo!

[Damien]

I don't care what you guys say... i wanted to see Montero play and for TFC to beat the Sounders hands down.

[ExiledRed]

I suspect he has a case of beemoturphobia.

[Pachuco]

kinda sucks we won't beat them with him there.

[Eastend]

A win is a win, but a win is a better win when you beat the other club when it has its full squad......

[denime]

now they have excuse,damn

[FluSH]

hey I wanna see him play as much as the other guy who enjoys footy... but fuck'm I'll take any advantage we can get!!!

[Batman]

I'd rather have him play. We can beat these guys Montero or not. Let's beat them when they're fully staffed.

[Pigfynn]

^^no kidding, I think some of you are getting ahead of yourself.

[TFC Via Buffalo]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_faS2JC07LAE/SSNRbhBn7vI/AAAAAAAABOo/pETt2Nr0iLQ/s400/tarp.jpg


Oh, good to see Montero ate the "cooked" steak I sent him the other day. :D

[DRock]

I'm pretty sure that Serioux sent him a letter saying "welcome to MLS" and that's why he's not comming!

[Malvern FC]

It would be nice to see Montero play cause he's extremly exciting to watch. If he plays or not our D will hold him down and we will win. Let's go boys were gonna school these dudes. TFC 4 LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Inklink]

I'm not falling for it! Or maybe it's just a way to create an excuse for a loss!


A win is a win, but a win is a better win when you beat the other club when it has its full squad......

aX6XMIldkRU :canada:

[rocker]

I'd rather have him play. We can beat these guys Montero or not. Let's beat them when they're fully staffed.

I want the three points, which I think are probably more likely without Montero playing.

When we win the MLS Cup in November, nobody will remember Montero didn't play for Seattle :)

[tfctillidie]

I hope he plays...so there's no excuses when TFC beats the Sounders

[FluSH]

I would love to see who's faster... Montero or Wynne?

that kid can run...

[brad]

There's no excuses for them even if Montero is not there. One player does not make a team. If they are that reliant on him, they're going to enjoy the bottom of the table this season.

[cuecas_red]

There's no excuses for them even if Montero is not there. One player does not make a team. If they are that reliant on him, they're going to enjoy the bottom of the table this season.
Exactly you are only as strong as your weakest player

[egoodwin]

i don't care about excuses

Seattle can have their excuses, we'll take the 3 points

[Cashcleaner]

Good news for us to see him dropped from the roster on Saturday. Frankly, if I want to watch him play, I'll check it all out on youtube.

3 Points should be ours on Saturday.

[egoodwin]

article has been doubled in the Seattle Times,

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sounders/2008975022_sounders03.html

so if this does prove true it's great.

and if he does end up playing he won't be 100%

[egoodwin]

Good news for us to see him dropped from the roster on Saturday. Frankly, if I want to watch him play, I'll check it all out on youtube.

3 Points should be ours on Saturday.
yeah, except the bastard was dropped and this news came out after the MFLS rosters locked for the week

[shaggingscot]

Isn't the first case of the BMO flu that a players come down with and most likely not the last.

[cougars732]

hope he gets better for the sake of the league.
he's solid entertainment.
and if you really think about it.... athletes are really just entertainers with big salaries keeping us all happy

[egoodwin]

viva the BMO Flu then

the less stars of other teams coming the better

I'm there to see us win, not to see player X or player Y, seeing them though would be a bonus, but only if we win

[BFin]

please please please don't play....montero that is

[Dirk Diggler]

I agree with the people saying how this is disappointing that we won't be facing a full stregth Seattle squad. However, with that said, I ain't complaining at all. This GREATLY improves our chances of getting a win and I'm all for that.

[jloome]

I agree with the people saying how this is disappointing that we won't be facing a full stregth Seattle squad. However, with that said, I ain't complaining at all. This GREATLY improves our chances of getting a win and I'm all for that.

You damn skippy.

[Azerban]

i was fine when beckham never showed up too

it's all about the points, if we have to fake a rival players moms death to get an advantage then lets do it

[Hitcho]

Most important thing is 3 points, followed by no injuries or suspensions for TFC and how well TFC play.

After that I'd go for game day experience which includes how good the game is, atmosphere, weather, etc.

Who's in the other team's line up comes pretty low on my list of priorities. You can have a great game and good entertainment without Montero (or Beckham, or whoever).

[Oblio2]

http://www.evilmilk.com/pictures/Its_A_Trap97.jpg


:eek:

[ThunderTundra]

http://graphjam.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/song-chart-memes-admiral-ackbar.jpg

[dantdot]

Sources: Sounders' Montero subject of police investigation

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/404574_montero02.html


A woman called the King County Sheriff's office this week alleging that Seattle Sounders FC soccer star Fredy Montero was stalking her, two law enforcement sources said Thursday evening.

[ThunderTundra]

^^^
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/4305/pervertaheadg.jpg

[dantdot]

^ hahaha, of course the facts are unknown at this time BUT new nickname: Freddy 'The Creep' Montero. :D

[Ossington Mental Youth]

subject to investigation?
Plays for Seattle?
Sounds like enough evidence to me to convict

[Cashcleaner]

yeah, except the bastard was dropped and this news came out after the MFLS rosters locked for the week

Sooooo, what you're saying is...he's.....not....playing....Saturday?

[twistedchinaman]

Half of me smell a trap, half of me says it's all good....

[Hustle]

Yes, it's confirmed. He has the Flu.

edit: replace Flu with "being investigated for sexual assault and stalking"

[Daveisonfire]

^ hahaha, of course the facts are unknown at this time BUT new nickname: Freddy 'The Creep' Montero. :D

haha whenever he's in possession..

Creeeeeeeepperrrr
Creeeeeeeepperrrr
Creeeeeeeepperrrr

[Pigfynn]

Song if he does play...to the tune of Every breath you take

Every shot you take, every pass you makkkkeeeeee
Every law you break, every foul you fake

We'll be mocking you.

:)

[rocker]

ahh... so it was the Investigated by Police Flu.
I knew the real flu was no reason for a player not to travel...

[denime]

Apparently that woman is from Toronto :D

[Krasno.pL.]

Cant Leave The Country Due To Investigation ;) hahahha

[David_Oliveira]

I hope this is not true for his sake. Kids got talent to go places. This might just be the same thing that happened to Kobe

[rocker]

well, nobody likes to see a guy wrongfully charged...I'll leave questions of true/false for them to decide.

but if the investigation keeps him away from BMO until it's all cleared up next week, fine by me! Thanks Seattle police for doing your job!

[BFin]

I really hope the pervert story is true.

If so, a giant wanted banner with pervert written on it would be quite poignant.

[Hitcho]

http://graphjam.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/song-chart-memes-admiral-ackbar.jpg

LOL - that's fucking hilarious! :rofl:

[Hitcho]

as for the stalking thing, it became quite common for a while in england for chicks to go drinkign with PL footballers, go back to a hotel with one or more of them and then allege rape. not once was anyone ever charged, let alone convicted. the whole thing stank of a ploy to get attention/money.

i hope this isn't the same thing. imagine how we'd be feeling if De Ro was stuck missing away games because some idiot was making false accusations. if it's all horse shit, the guy should be here and playing, simple as that.

if it is true, he's got issues and i'm glad he's not gonna be creeping around bmo field or TO.

but let's wait and see before we judge him. he's a shining light in the league so far this season, a toung, talented, exciting player and MLS needs as many of those as it can get right now.

[Brooker]

he wont be playing at BMO next year thats for sure.... so all the better if he doesnt play at BMO this year.

[TFC~Vatreni]

Buddy thinks he's still in South America and can creep all over women with his "machismo"....lol CREEEEEEEP! Good player though.

[Jack]

Buddy thinks he's still in South America and can creep all over women with his "machismo"....lol CREEEEEEEP! Good player though.
:rolleyes: What?

[DOMIN8R]

Lots of shit verging on sexist and racist in this thread.

[Azerban]

Apparently that woman is from Toronto :D

way to take one for the team lady!

[TFC~Vatreni]

What I meant is, things are more aggressive in certain places in the world in how they approach women. Not meant to be racist but it's funny. He should know better, doubt it was real "stalking".

[Jack]

What I meant is, things are more aggressive in certain places in the world in how they approach women. Not meant to be racist but it's funny. He should know better, doubt it was real "stalking".
Yeah...I suppose "aggressive" is one way of putting it. "Direct" would be another. The thing is, the women in those places know how to deal with that approach, whereas a North American woman might find it uncomfortable.

[TFC~Vatreni]

, whereas a North American woman might find it uncomfortable.

Exactly why he should know better. He hasn't been charged according to an article I've read so it's speculation for now.

[Jack]

Exactly why he should know better. He hasn't been charged according to an article I've read so it's speculation for now.
He should know better? I suppose so, but chances are, when you're 23 and from Colombia then you're probably not aware of the different social mores of North American women. He needs a better advisor, that's for sure.

[trane]

Good news is that even if he plays we will know how to get under his skin.

[Krasno.pL.]

He Simply Just Cannot Get A Visa to Enter Canada ;) haha

[jloome]

He should know better? I suppose so, but chances are, when you're 23 and from Colombia then you're probably not aware of the different social mores of North American women. He needs a better advisor, that's for sure.

Assuming there's any truth to it at all and this isn't just someone being opportunistic

[ExiledRed]

If he wanted to get with a north american chick, he should have dressed badly, ignored her all night, got wasted and started a fight.

It seems to work with all the student chicks I see running after the pissed arseholes in guelph on saturday night.

And Jack, you ARE a bit creepy.

:)

[C.Ronaldo]

that chick is hot, but why is there a naked guy standing behind her?

[Don Julio]

Montero, she said no!
Montero, she said no!

[Hitcho]

Assuming there's any truth to it at all and this isn't just someone being opportunistic

Exactly. Let's not condemn the guy yet. Plenty of footballers (and rugby players for that matter) have fallen prey to this kind of behavious in the UK. It's sad, and it tends to leave a stain that is totally unfair.

He won't be playing on Sat by the looks of it, that's good news from the point of view of TFC getting a result. But none of this is good for the league. in fact after the shit storm in KK last week, this is the last thing MLS needs right now - a shit storm over players as well as fans.

Personally I hope it's all overblown and put to bed quickly with no lasting damage. MLS needs players like Montero, and so do we if we want to be watching a good product on the pitch.

[Hitcho]

that chick is hot, but why is there a naked guy standing behind her?

eh? where did you see this?!

[Jack]

He Simply Just Cannot Get A Visa to Enter Canada ;) haha

I thought of this as well.

And I know I'm creepy, Ian. That's what the chicks dig about me :D

Anyway, I get the feeling this could be something like what jloome and Hitcho are saying.

[Canadian Blue]

I would rather he play so we beat there best team.

[lips]

Would have been nice to see him cry after beating them:D

[Up The TFC]

Ill is one way of describing it.

'The subject of a police investigation for stalking a girl he allegedly sexually assaulted' is another...

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/404574_montero02.html?source=mypi


Sources: Sounders' Montero subject of police investigation

By SCOTT GUTIERREZ (scottgutierrez@seattlepi.com) AND GREG JOHNS (gregjohns@seattlepi.com)
SEATTLEPI.COM STAFF
A woman called the King County Sheriff's office this week alleging that Seattle Sounders FC soccer star Fredy Montero was stalking her, two law enforcement sources said Thursday evening.
According to a law enforcement report about the incident, the 23-year-old woman told police on March 31 that she saw Montero in a car near her home in Sammamish. The report stated that she feared for her safety because Montero allegedly had sexually assaulted her in Bellevue the week before on March 22, which she had reported to the Bellevue Police Department.
http://www.seattlepi.com/dayart/20090402/100montero.jpg Montero Montero did not accompany the team to Toronto for this Saturday's game. A Sounders spokesman said Montero didn't travel with the squad because of illness.
Efforts to locate Montero's contact information were unsuccessful, and he could not be reached.
Bellevue police briefed the sheriff's department on the March 22 assault allegation, according to the two law enforcement sources, who said that Montero was the subject of that assault allegation.
Bellevue Police Department spokesman Greg Grannis declined to confirm whether Montero is under investigation. But he did say the department is investigating a March 22 sexual assault.
"We have a case number, and it's an open investigation," Grannis said. "It has not gotten far enough to where charges were filed yet."
Grannis said the department does not usually name suspects prior to charges being filed. Detectives have not yet generated a probable cause statement, a document that is usually a precursor to charges being filed.
A King County Prosecutor's Office spokesman would not say whether an assault case involving Montero had been referred to the office for prosecution. No charges have been filed against Montero; jail reports show no record of any bookings involving Montero. King County Sheriff's Sgt. John Urquhart said that after preliminary investigation, it appears that no crime had been committed on March 31.
Montero, 21, was named Major League Soccer's Player of the Month after scoring three goals in the Sounders' first two games in franchise history.
"We are aware of the situation and continue to gather information," said Sounders spokesman Dave Pearson. "We fully support Fredy and expect him to play next week. We will have no further comment at this time."

[billyfly]

Wha?

[billyfly]

Someone else just posted the alleged stalking and assaulting story in another thread.

EDIT: and there it is

[Oblio2]

Too funny......

[billyfly]

What wil Gareth Wheeler say about this? Football is evil?

[Oblio2]

Gareth Wheeler is a felcher

*unsure what that is, Google "Felching"

[MTomas]

I would rather he play so we beat there best team.

Agreed why not beat them with there best team on the field. I'd hate for them to say that they were missing one of there best players.

[Jack]

I just merged the threads so we can keep the discussion in the same place.

[Oblio2]

Agreed why not beat them with there best team on the field. I'd hate for them to say that they were missing one of there best players.

And if Amado isnt playing, we can say the same

[arbogast]

Gareth Wheeler is a felcher

*unsure what that is, Google "Felching"


Ohhhhh that's loooowwwwwwwww. but funny.

[rocker]

Agreed why not beat them with there best team on the field. I'd hate for them to say that they were missing one of there best players.

but if Montero scores 3 goals and they win, what good is that?

I'd rather win against a depleted squad than lose to a complete squad.
We need points, not moral victories.

Nobody downplays our results against LA without Becksy....

[Hustle]

Him not coming for whatever reason will not take anything away from the glory I will feel when we are victorious!!!

[James Oliphant]

Agreed why not beat them with there best team on the field. I'd hate for them to say that they were missing one of there best players.

Three points are three points. Who cares that they'll be missing their top scorer? How many games did we play over the past two years where one or many of our best players were gone? Do you really think any of the opposing fans were saying "yeah, those three points are nice, but they don't mean as much because Carl Robinson was in Wales"?

[Pigfynn]

3 pts anyway we can....always.

[nfitz]

Ooh, there's banner in there somewhere ...

[ExiledRed]

but if Montero scores 3 goals and they win, what good is that?

I'd rather win against a depleted squad than lose to a complete squad.
We need points, not moral victories.

Nobody downplays our results against LA without Becksy....

Wow, I agree with this.

People are overconfident if they think Montero should play. He's actually quite deadly, and I could do without the stress, given that it's accepted fact that our defense is not up to scratch.

I want us to win tomorrow, that will prove something regardless of Montero's involvement. It will also put us higher than Seattle in the overall standings.

By the way, we beat LA at home 3-2, and Beckham played, but that doesn't further my point.

[TFC Via Buffalo]

1, 2 Montero's Looking For You
3,4 Better lock your door
5, 6 Hide The Sounder's Chicks
7,8 Keep Him In The States

[edmundo]

lol well if he doesnt play that means we win 1-0 cuz i had him on pace for a 50 goal season in all comps, so you subtract the 2 or 3 golasos he probably would of scored and were victorious!!!

[Hitcho]

i understand the feeling of wanting to beat their best side, because that's what top level sport is all about. but look at it this way - if he plays and scores the winner, will it console you on the way home that we lost to their best side? NO!

we can only beat the team they put out on the pitch. whatever their side looks like, if we win, I'll be elated with the three points.

[edmundo]

if he scores the winner and we lose we know that our side needs to improve, putting pressure on the front office to maybe go get us a dp perhaps? but if we smoke them at half strength sure we feel good in the short term but will we really know how good our team really stacks up against the best in mls?

[James Oliphant]

if he scores the winner and we lose we know that our side needs to improve, putting pressure on the front office to maybe go get us a dp perhaps? but if we smoke them at half strength sure we feel good in the short term but will we really know how good our team really stacks up against the best in mls?

But...we'll...have...3...points...

The goal is to make the playoffs (and more). By any means necessary. What don't people get about this?

[edmundo]

But...we'll...have...3...points...

The goal is to make the playoffs (and more). By any means necessary. What don't people get about this?

so we smoke seattle with half their aquad and next week were overwhelmed by the shite bulls or some other shite team and then were like hmm we smoked seattles depleted roster in the opener and now weve gone oh i dunno 8 games without a goal or 6 weeks without a win

[edmundo]

people need to see the broader picture with things too many times on this board i notice people cant see past the short term

[James Oliphant]

so we smoke seattle with half their aquad and next week were overwhelmed by the shite bulls or some other shite team and then were like hmm we smoked seattles depleted roster in the opener and now weve gone oh i dunno 8 games without a goal or 6 weeks without a win

Half their squad? Dude, it's one fucking player...

When is 3 points not 3 points? Answer that question. Please. Now.

You're also assuming some letup will happen if/when we beat Seattle without Montero. Do you really think Carver and all the players are mentally retarded? That because they beat Seattle without Montero they assume they can roll over every team in the league?

If so, you're higher than high.

[edmundo]

Half their squad? Dude, it's one fucking player...

When is 3 points not 3 points? Answer that question. Please. Now.

You're also assuming some letup will happen if/when we beat Seattle without Montero. Do you really think Carver and all the players are mentally retarded? That because they beat Seattle without Montero they assume they can roll over every team in the league?

If so, you're higher than high.
wow well im sorry that the competitor in me wants to play the best players and the best teams and test myself against the best, and tbh montero has scored 3 of their 5 goals this year, so by that token hes not half their team hes more like 60% of their team, with your philosophy we might as well start playing csl teams as well so we can get the 3 points everytime

[Bobo]

1, 2 Montero's Looking For You
3,4 Better lock your door
5, 6 Hide The Sounder's Chicks
7,8 Keep Him In The States

Haha! Good stuff. Although its a shame if he's guilty.

[James Oliphant]

wow well im sorry that the competitor in me wants to play the best players and the best teams and test myself against the best, and tbh montero has scored 3 of their 5 goals this year, so by that token hes not half their team hes more like 60% of their team, with your philosophy we might as well start playing csl teams as well so we can get the 3 points everytime

Jesus dude...you're being ridiculous, and you know it. Just stop.

Is he also the 60% of their team that allowed zero goals in both games? I never once saw him make a tackle or stop a shot.

And you call ME out for missing the bigger picture.

Also, you still haven't answered the question. When is 3 points not 3 points?

[edmundo]

i want exiled reds take on this discussion personally he seems to be one of the more level headed people on the board

[colman1860]

i want exiled reds take on this discussion personally he seems to be one of the more level headed people on the board

Because you`re unable to come up with a sane reply yourself? Is Gino Padula 25% of our team this year?

A win gives you three points...nobody cares if the other team sent their U7 girls roster. 3 points in the standings is all that counts.

[edmundo]

well hey if you guys think its cool to beat up on girls teams lol, personally from playing sports and being a competitor for many years i relished the opportunity to play the best and prove myself every game, if your playing the hottest team in the league or the best player in the league and beat them at full strength then your flat out better than them, period, but not everyone has been there and done that so i wont answer that question, the opinion varys person by person

[ExiledRed]

i want exiled reds take on this discussion personally he seems to be one of the more level headed people on the board

I'm sure this post drew a few chuckles...but thankyou anyway.

Personally, with our defence the way it is, I don't think Montero would be much fun to watch tomorrow, and I'm glad he's likely not playing.

The real yardstick is how well a team performs over the full season, so it's unnecessary to play every teams full strength squad to gain a perspective on how good we are. Seattle can't use Montero's absence as an excuse or they're admitting they're dependant on one player.

We likely wont have Amado, so it's even stevens anyway.

Finally my real take on tomorrow is in another thread. Tomorrow is less about Montero or Ljungberg than it should be about DeRo's and Serioux's homecoming .

[James Oliphant]

i want exiled reds take on this discussion personally he seems to be one of the more level headed people on the board

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[brad]

Montero is one player. I don't care how good he is. Beckham is the best player this league has seen, and he didn't carry the Galaxy to glory.

If we beat them with half the first team out, you may have an argument that the victory lacks some luster. This is one player.

And, there is another very important point being glossed over here. There will be a certain player in the starting 11 for the first time who is not to far past being one of the top players for one of the top teams in Europe.

I'm more afraid of what Ljunberg can do than Montero. Unless he has completely declined, he is going to rip the shit out of this league.

[ExiledRed]

oh yeah, and I dont think losing against a full strength Seattle would get us a DP. (or grass, or a CB)

[ExiledRed]

http://gotorontofc.com/modules/PNphpBB2/images/smiles/icon_facepalm.gif

Thanks for the vote of confidence, Buddy!

[brad]

I'm sure this post drew a few chuckles...but thankyou anyway.

Personally, with our defence the way it is, I don't think Montero would be much fun to watch tomorrow, and I'm glad he's likely not playing.


While I do agree our defense is questionable, it is quite tight at BMO. We had the second best home defensive record in the league last year, conceding 12. 3 of those came in the match where we had a Whitecap bench warmer and our scout in the back four.

I also think that other improvements in the rest of the team should alleviate pressure some of the pressure on our defense and help the situation further.

All that said, Montero does scare the shit out of me.

[James Oliphant]

Thanks for the vote of confidence, Buddy!

Heh...nothing to do with you. More to do with his not being able to answer the question himself.

[TOBOR !]

i want exiled reds take on this discussion personally he seems to be one of the more level headed people on the board

.... I was gonna go back and read through this thread but now I don't think I'll bother.

[edmundo]

All that said, Montero does scare the shit out of me.
and id of loved to pound him and the sounders into submission 3-0 at bmo tommorow! but w.e ill settle for a 6-0 win over the second team

[edmundo]

Heh...nothing to do with you. More to do with his not being able to answer the question himself.
i dunno about you, but ill tell you a little about me, ive played soccer and basketball as high as the college level myself personally, i dunno about your athletic background, but when i did i was a competitor, that competetive spirit still burns to this day, so for me to answer you in your trms is tough cuz i dont get pumped on beating an opponent at half strength the same way i do at beating him when hes healthy and on top of his game, so again i dunno about you, but thats how i feel

[James Oliphant]

i dunno about you, but ill tell you a little about me, ive played soccer and basketball as high as the college level myself personally, i dunno about your athletic background, but when i did i was a competitor, that competetive spirit still burns to this day, so for me to answer you in your trms is tough cuz i dont get pumped on beating an opponent at half strength the same way i do at beating him when hes healthy and on top of his game, so again i dunno about you, but thats how i feel

But how does that equate to us suddenly going on a streak of "oh i dunno 8 games without a goal or 6 weeks without a win"?

[Pachuco]

I think all Edmundo is trying to say is that he would prefer to beat Seattle with Montero there. I tend to agree with him.

On the other hand, if he doesn't play, that's fine, I'll still take the three points and drink my ass off to celebrate. I just won't go as far as saying I would "prefer" that Montero is not there.

[TFC Via Buffalo]

Who ever the hell's on the field should never stop a team from always trying to improve the team they put out. I don't give a shit if Seattle throws out An all star team from the EPL and beat us 30-2 or an all star team they gathered from Starbucks and we slam them 36-0. If the front office isn't looking for ways to improve, they need to be fired immediatley.

And please don't give me the "best competition" crap. I played college basketball too. If I saw an advantage, I took it. Teams best player's not out there? Good. Gives my team a better chance at winning. A win is a win. Shit happens through a season. Injuries, red cards, suspensions etc. Those are just as much a part of the game as playing it. It's just as much up to the other team to have a capable backup as it it would be for us to have guys just as equally good to match him if he is playing.

Not trying to be harsh. But I still got that competitive fire too or I wouldn't be arguing. :D

[James Oliphant]

I think all Edmundo is trying to say is that he would prefer to beat Seattle with Montero there. I tend to agree with him.

Pretty sure we all get that and agree with the sentiment, but it's the presumptions he makes about the effect that beating Seattle without Montero will have on the club which I find ridiculous.

[nfitz]

and id of lovedid? love? Sounds a bit too new-age for me. Can't we just play football, and beat the best team that Seattle can put on the field tomorrow (the best team that their police haven't placed travel restrictions on at least :) )

[Mango Kid]

Sources: Sounders' Montero subject of police investigation

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/404574_montero02.html

Sports Illustrated (http://m.si.com/news/tr/tr/detail/1509588;jsessionid=15578EEBB66D086975BF1AF138E37D6 5.cnnsilive9i) has picked it up too...

[Cashcleaner]

I think I know Edmundo enough to get the gist of what he's saying. Edmundo is looking at things as a competitor and looks forward to the challenge in itself while the rest of us are looking at the issue as spectators and fans who want to see our team win.

Personally, I'm not bothered either way who shows up for Seattle on Saturday, but I can certainly understand how it might be interesting to see the guy on the pitch interacting with his team and ours.

It's like watching a match between two teams you don't follow. You can argue that it's useless because you don't have any emotion vested in the game or the outcome, but can still watch just because you like to watch good soccer.

[james]

Sports Illustrated (http://m.si.com/news/tr/tr/detail/1509588;jsessionid=15578EEBB66D086975BF1AF138E37D6 5.cnnsilive9i) has picked it up too...

Oh man if these articles come out to be true, next time he comes to Toronto imagine the banners and chants he will get directed towards him...oh man i could picture it now :p

[Oldtimer]

It's official, Montero is out:


UPDATE 3:15 p.m.: Montero will definitely not play, it's official. Coach Schmid will not announce who will start in Montero's place until the 1-hour deadline before kickoff.

http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/sounders/2009/04/03/its_raining_in_toronto_and_fre.html

[rocker]

It's official, Montero is out:



http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/sounders/2009/04/03/its_raining_in_toronto_and_fre.html

praise the soccer gods. .. first an own goal from Columbus, now this :)

the sea is parting for TFC to go right through :)

[DOMIN8R]

It's official, Montero is out:



http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/sounders/2009/04/03/its_raining_in_toronto_and_fre.html


Nice find, Oldtimer. What the Fuck is Marvel doing at their Hotel?

[FluSH]

Nice find, Oldtimer. What the Fuck is Marvel doing at their Hotel?

best quote in that blog is this:

-The team is close to announcing a Spanish-language TV deal, I'm told.
(El equipo esta cerca de anunciar un negocio de television en español.)

hahhaha the only sentence in the wntire blog that was translated!!! :D

[GeorgeB]

Nice find, Oldtimer. What the Fuck is Marvel doing at their Hotel?probably meeting up with Tyronne.

[FluSH]

you better call on Tyroooooooone!

[DOMIN8R]

probably meeting up with Tyronne.

The night before a big game? I don't expect them to be enemies. But I don't like the optics. He should know better.

[the-lower-eastsider]

has this already been posted? montero up on sexual assault charges and stalking?

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/404574_montero02.html

freddy freddy freddy. bad freddy. quick: banner and two stick suggestions NOW!
sir lump-a-lot

[Brooker]

18 hours to go?

[ExiledRed]

17 hours 35 minutes