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RPB_RED_NATION_RPB
04-01-2009, 07:47 AM
Was not aware TFC ACADEMY were placed in the SUPER GROUP!
Shall be interesting to see how well we preform against some great high profile teams!

2009 Dr Pepper Dallas Cup XXX

There is a number of teams across Ontario competing in the various age catagories! Class Tourny!

2007 Super Group CHAMPS LIVERPOOL FC!

Super Group (http://www.dallascup.com/teams/XXX/accepted12194304.html)- Toronto FC
U19 (http://www.dallascup.com/teams/XXX/accepted12194309.html)- Toronto Lynx Juniors
U17 (http://www.dallascup.com/teams/XXX/accepted12194310.html)-
U16 (http://www.dallascup.com/teams/XXX/accepted12194311.html)
U15 (http://www.dallascup.com/teams/XXX/accepted12194312.html)
U14 (http://www.dallascup.com/teams/XXX/accepted12194313.html)
U13 (http://www.dallascup.com/teams/XXX/accepted12194314.html)


Good Luck BOYS!



Super Group (http://www.dallascup.com/schedules/XXX/12194304.html)
Bracket A AC Milan (Italy) (http://www.dallascup.com/scripts/runisa.dll?M2:gp::80754+Elements/Display+E+46241+++13957315++12194271)Tigres (Mexico) (http://www.dallascup.com/scripts/runisa.dll?M2:gp::80754+Elements/Display+E+46241+++13109794++12194271)Manchester City FC (England) (http://www.dallascup.com/scripts/runisa.dll?M2:gp::80754+Elements/Display+E+46241+++13129530++12194271)Toronto FC Academy (Canada) (http://www.dallascup.com/scripts/runisa.dll?M2:gp::80754+Elements/Display+E+46241+++13609126++12194271)
Bracket B Sao Paulo FC (Brazil) (http://www.dallascup.com/scripts/runisa.dll?M2:gp::80754+Elements/Display+E+46241+++12910946++12194271)Urawa Red Diamonds (Japan) (http://www.dallascup.com/scripts/runisa.dll?M2:gp::80754+Elements/Display+E+46241+++13556480++12194271)Eintracht Frankfurt (Germany) (http://www.dallascup.com/scripts/runisa.dll?M2:gp::80754+Elements/Display+E+46241+++12268302++12194271)Dallas Texans Red (N-TX) (http://www.dallascup.com/scripts/runisa.dll?M2:gp::80754+Elements/Display+E+46241+++13468609++12194271)
Bracket C Club Atletico River Plate (Argentina) (http://www.dallascup.com/scripts/runisa.dll?M2:gp::80754+Elements/Display+E+46241+++14061224++12194271)Vancouver Whitecaps (Canada) (http://www.dallascup.com/scripts/runisa.dll?M2:gp::80754+Elements/Display+E+46241+++12804350++12194271)Club Futbol Monterrey (Mexico) (http://www.dallascup.com/scripts/runisa.dll?M2:gp::80754+Elements/Display+E+46241+++12812618++12194271)Andromeda U18 Academy (http://www.dallascup.com/scripts/runisa.dll?M2:gp::80754+Elements/Display+E+46241+++12803261++12194271)

RPB_RED_NATION_RPB
04-01-2009, 08:06 AM
any chance of GOL TV(MLSE) covering the TFC ACADEMY games?? lol :)

woolly
04-01-2009, 08:30 AM
Holy Crap, those boys must be stoked!

Good luck fellas!

bdiddy
04-01-2009, 08:57 AM
wow, that's quite the competition.

spezz44
04-01-2009, 09:02 AM
wow, only one american team and two canadian, good luck buys thats some stiff comp

TFC Bhoy
04-01-2009, 09:08 AM
Ya that surprises me that there isn't nearly as much US teams in there, and the only one that is isn't even for an MLS team! Or am I wrong and they are FC Dallas's team? But in any case that is amazing for our young guys to take on the likes of the AC Milan youth team.

Ron Manager
04-01-2009, 10:14 AM
I believe our academy is well ahead of most other MLS teams. Most teams have been slow to get theirs going.

Lucky Strike
04-01-2009, 10:25 AM
Wow, those are some academies from huge clubs. Are our boys expected to do well or just get slaughtered? A good showing would be enormous for us.

Damien
04-01-2009, 10:31 AM
Just being in this tournament proves that by getting your child on TFC gives them international exposure.

spezz44
04-01-2009, 10:32 AM
^^^couldnt agree more

rocker
04-01-2009, 11:14 AM
hopefully the TFC coaches do some scouting reports on the kids on other teams :)

Shway
04-01-2009, 11:20 AM
i still think the MLS academy should still change things up a bit

Sullivan
04-01-2009, 07:08 PM
I'm flying down to Dallas Sunday morning to help some NCAA friends scout the tournament. It's my 5th year scouting the u16s. Overall, in the 20+ years I coached, I've never seen a tournament with such a consistent high level of competition.

Those of you with kids, or youth coaching - if ever you get the chance to participate, do it. First class and quality all the way. Just about every D1 & D3 NCAA program will have scouts there.

Red CB Toronto
04-01-2009, 07:11 PM
I'm flying down to Dallas Sunday morning to help some NCAA friends scout the tournament. It's my 5th year scouting the u16s. Overall, in the 20+ years I coached, I've never seen a tournament with such a consistent high level of competition.

Those of you with kids, or youth coaching - if ever you get the chance to participate, do it. First class and quality all the way. Just about every D1 & D3 NCAA program will have scouts there.

You said just about every D1 and D3 coach will be there, what about D2?

Sullivan
04-01-2009, 07:17 PM
D2s don't have athletic scholarships, a very small % of D2 schools attend. Most players attending Dallas Cup are intent in negotiating full rides. Not a lot of D2s have that kind of flexibility.

mighty_torontofc_2008
04-01-2009, 07:24 PM
Good luck to the Reds.....represent the club well!!

Red CB Toronto
04-01-2009, 07:30 PM
D2s don't have athletic scholarships, a very small % of D2 schools attend. Most players attending Dallas Cup are intent in negotiating full rides. Not a lot of D2s have that kind of flexibility.

I am curious then why would D3 go and not 2, what advantage do they have, I am not trying to sound too dumb it is that I really do not know much about the US college soccer system.

Sullivan
04-01-2009, 07:42 PM
Student population determines D1, D2, D3. Bigger schools = more $$$.
But lots of private post- secondary schools are classified as D3, $$$.
Ivy schools don't have athletic scholarships and they too often get lumped in with the D3s, but they too are quasi privates - i.e. Harvard, Yale, Cornell, Princeton.

Many State U's are D2 - public money, smaller student populations.

Schools can move between programs, just depends on Revenue vs expenses.

Sullivan
04-01-2009, 07:51 PM
Soccer wise:
DI women's offer 14 full athletic scholarships max. per season.
DI men offer 9.9 full athletic scholarships max. per season.
D2 women's offer 9 full athletic scholarships max. per season.
D2 men offer 9 full athletic scholarships max. per season.

D1 & D2s also subsidize athletic scholly's with academic $$$; which is how the D3 & Ivy schools get their athletes. And financial aid (inability to pay-hardship)

Don't forget,
many rosters are 25 players +, so scholly's are split
full funded scholly's are few and are between, can a school afford to fund all soccer scholarships - some can, some can't.
Also, factor in how many sports a school will host...

Football and basketball are head counts sports - fully funded. Soccer isn't.
Another way to expalin it is football and basketball generate $$$; soccer costs $$$.

Mark in Ottawa
04-01-2009, 07:54 PM
http://www.dallascup.com/

As far as I can make it out:
1 canadian team in the U19 bracket
4 canadian teams in the U17 bracket
2 canadian teams in the U16 bracket
0 canadian teams in the U15, U14 or U13 brackets

Strange... I would have sworn that a team from Ottawa attended this event last year and did fairly well :noidea:

Sullivan
04-01-2009, 08:32 PM
Last year, Liverpool's entry destroyed all comers.

Look for the Whitecaps entry to do well; they learned much last year and are an improved side this year. So I hear.

Also, coaching plays a big part in this tournament; professional coaches.
TFC has Bent & Neeley.

Tigres (Mexico) lost in the final last year; they are a regular side in this group. Loads of talent and experience.

And you have to figure that Manchester City knows that Liverpool won it last year and they probably know how talented that squad was. So they are not coming over as just tourists.

TFC will see some good sides - good luck boys. Hope to squeeze in a match.

Krasno.pL.
04-01-2009, 08:34 PM
Dallas Cup is an awesome tournament to be apart of :D
Had a blast down there when i was a kid :)

goodluck to the boys in a toughtough tourney!

T_Mizz
04-02-2009, 12:27 AM
Many State U's are D2 - public money, smaller student populations.

Just curious how do bigtime teams like Michigan state, Ohio state, florida state, oklahoma state, kansas state, penn state always have sch good teams if they've got less money or are they the exceptions and the reason why you said "many" state u's

Dirk Diggler
04-02-2009, 03:58 AM
My buddy who is in the Vancouver residency program is absolutely pumped for it. From the sounds of it, they expect to be competitive against everyone and there is no sense of awe facing big name teams.

Sullivan
04-02-2009, 06:03 AM
Many, not all.

The list I use for my purposes, which does not list all 700+ men's programs, reflects many State Us at the D2 level.