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RPB_RED_NATION_RPB
03-15-2009, 05:42 PM
DERO OR GUEVARA?

On a number of ocassion's yesterday...Guevara wanted no part of anyone else taking the FRee Kicks...other then himself!

I thought on a few FK's..just out side the box I would have liked to see DERO have a crack

Is this a Coaches decison....or who ever runs and picks the ball up the fastest? :)!!...

Dont take me wrong....Guevara has been great on Fee Kicks.....BUt i'd like to see DERo in on some of these!

T_Mizz
03-15-2009, 05:48 PM
Two words: De Ro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML7Kh_Na3Tg

Inklink
03-15-2009, 05:56 PM
Both on the ball, with both kicking the ball at once? :D

Nah, I'd like both to share, but DeRo taking a little more than Guevara. Maybe 60-40 DeRo.

Stryker
03-15-2009, 06:50 PM
DeRo to take free kicks.
Guevara takes the corners.

Pachuco
03-15-2009, 06:51 PM
Guevara should be taking them. He's a free kick specialist. Look at ManU. They have 6 guys who can all take free kicks and Ronaldo is still the only one that has a crack when they are near the goal.

I don't know, I've never seen Dero as a free kick specialist.

Dunc
03-15-2009, 06:54 PM
Guevara should be taking them. He's a free kick specialist. Look at ManU. They have 6 guys who can all take free kicks and Ronaldo is still the only one that has a crack when they are near the goal.

I don't know, I've never seen Dero as a free kick specialist.

I wouldn't see that as a credible argument. A lot of people believe that Man Utd are missing out by having Ronaldo take all the free kicks because he's actually garbage at them. Gets the odd lucky one but rarely.

Blizzard
03-15-2009, 06:56 PM
I wouldn't see that as a credible argument. A lot of people believe that Man Utd are missing out by having Ronaldo take all the free kicks because he's actually garbage at them. Gets the odd lucky one but rarely.

Mix them up. We know Barrett can pot the odd one as well. Amado almost scored on one on Saturday but for a defender heading it off the line.

Leave them guessing.

Stryker
03-15-2009, 07:01 PM
I don't know, I've never seen Dero as a free kick specialist.
Then you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

Pachuco
03-15-2009, 07:01 PM
I wouldn't see that as a credible argument. A lot of people believe that Man Utd are missing out by having Ronaldo take all the free kicks because he's actually garbage at them. Gets the odd lucky one but rarely.

Well alot of people aren't Ferguson are they? Can you really argue against a coach of that stature? It's more then a credible argument. A good coach knows he needs to show his faith in one player for free kicks. To say Ronaldo is garbage at free kicks is ridicolous. Also, Guevara has a good record on free kicks with us. He should keep taking them until he starts slumping. Having 1 game where you hit the post on a free kick is by no means slumping. The only exception is I would let Barrett take free kicks from further out. Only because he gets more power under his shots. I see no reason why Dero needs to take free kicks. Carver doesn't either.

Stryker
03-15-2009, 07:03 PM
Well alot of people aren't Ferguson are they? Can you really argue against a coach of that stature? It's more then a credible argument. A good coach knows he needs to show his faith in one player for free kicks. To say Ronaldo is garbage at free kicks is ridicolous. Also, Guevara has a good record on free kicks with us. He should keep taking them until he starts slumping. Having 1 game where you hit the post on a free kick is by no means slumping. The only exception is I would let Barrett take free kicks from further out. Only because he gets more power under his shots. I see no reason why Dero needs to take free kicks. Carver doesn't either.
Keep talking out your ass.

:)

Pachuco
03-15-2009, 07:05 PM
Keep talking out your ass.

:)

Dude, why don't you show me some fucking stats or something instead of replying with some smart ass replies, idiot!

Stryker
03-15-2009, 07:22 PM
Dude, why don't you show me some fucking stats or something instead of replying with some smart ass replies, idiot!
http://www.freekickmastersusa.com/meetThePlayers.asp

K thnx bye

Pachuco
03-15-2009, 07:32 PM
http://www.freekickmastersusa.com/meetThePlayers.asp

K thnx bye

Yeah what does that mean? He was invited cause he scored a real nice free kick against LA probably. Doesn't mean he's going to hit the net regularly on free kicks. Something Guevara does consistently. In fact, he's fucking known in the MLS and Honduras for taking great free kicks. Are you telling me Dero is known for that? how many free kicks has Dero scored in the MLS? How many has he scored for Canada? show me some fucking numbers. And stop replying like a 2 year old who can't even state their own opinion. This is a forum, learn how to have a conversation.

James Oliphant
03-15-2009, 07:32 PM
http://www.freekickmastersusa.com/meetThePlayers.asp

K thnx bye

I fail to see what an exhibition in Houston has to do with anything...

Stryker
03-15-2009, 07:37 PM
Yeah what does that mean? He was invited cause he scored a real nice free kick against LA probably. Doesn't mean he's going to hit the net regularly on free kicks. Something Guevara does consistently. In fact, he's fucking known in the MLS and Honduras for taking great free kicks. Are you telling me Dero is known for that? how many free kicks has Dero scored in the MLS? How many has he scored for Canada? show me some fucking numbers. And stop replying like a 2 year old who can't even state their own opinion. This is a forum, learn how to have a conversation.
I never said Guevara wasen't a great free kicker. He clearly is.
I merely pointed out the fact that you didn't know what you were talking about if you said that Dero wasn't a great free kicker (ie. specialist).
Now seeing as I really have neither the time nor the inclination to show you just how wrong you are, why don't you try and prove me wrong instead by finding stats. When you do you might find something I already knew long along... MLS isn't the MLB and finding specifc stats isn't that easy.

Nuvinho
03-15-2009, 07:41 PM
Until Guevara starts hitting the ball over the goal, why fix something that isn't broken.

Guevara has set up some nice plays (remember the pass off a free kick to Robbo last year). In the course of a season, DeRo will take some free kicks, maybe even Barrett too. I am just happy we now have a PK taker finally.

Pachuco
03-15-2009, 07:43 PM
I never said Guevara wasen't a great free kicker. He clearly is.
I merely pointed out the fact that you didn't know what you were talking about if you said that Dero wasn't a great free kicker (ie. specialist).
Now seeing as I really have neither the time nor the inclination to show you just how wrong you are, why don't you try and prove me wrong instead by finding stats. When you do you might find something I already knew long along... MLS ain't the MLB and finding specifc stats ain't that easy.

Let's see, I made a comment and stated my opinion. You decided to challenge me with absolutely no proof and with a 2 year old's response. Guevara is highly regarded as a free kick taker. Dero ISN'T as far as I know. I'd tell you that Dero should take all penalties because he's highly regarded for being a clutch man. This isn't a conversation about whether Dero can take free kicks, it's a conversation about WHO should take them. In my opinion, Guevara should take them. I have no proof, but I'm sure he's scored 3 times (if not more) the amount of goals on free kicks then Dero has.

If you don't have the desire or time to prove someone wrong in a forum then you might as well just shut up.

T_Mizz
03-15-2009, 07:54 PM
I have no proof, but I'm sure he's scored 3 times (if not more) the amount of goals on free kicks then Dero has.

that doesn't makes sense man, in all fairness if you're going to throw out unfounded claims then stryker has just as much a right as you

Pachuco
03-15-2009, 07:59 PM
that doesn't makes sense man, in all fairness if you're hoing to throw out unfounded claims then stryker has just as much a right as you

There's a difference. I wasn't out to prove someone wrong, I was stating my opinion. I said "I've never seen Dero as a free kick specialist". That is a PERSONAL opinion. His response was that I have no idea what I'm talking about. If he disagrees, and he's seen him take some great free kicks then that's all he has to say. If he's going to challenge me and say I'm clueless then you would think he's put himselft in a position to prove me wrong.

TFC RealDeal RPB
03-15-2009, 08:35 PM
Nah, I'd like both to share, but DeRo taking a little more than Guevara. Maybe 60-40 DeRo.
I like that idea b/c it keeps both of them happy and DeRo better anyway:canada:

flatpicker
03-15-2009, 08:42 PM
ok... settle down folks!

I will serve up the free kicks from now on!

and by that, I don't mean I give kicks for free...

because that would be silly.

first of all I would never sell my kicks.

I'm a respectable gentleman.

but I will kick a ball if needed.

Derko
03-15-2009, 08:57 PM
Holy fuck guys, I think the argument for any coach would be, who is more consistent, at that is determined through free kicks in matches but more so from free kicks during training, which kick taker has the better ratio of kicks taken to goals and near misses. It's basic fucking coaching.
Stryker, I think you missed what Pachuco was trying to say was, perhaps he doesn't see DeRo as a free kick specialists in Pachuco's opinion,( In which you happened to take insult to and posted that Pachuco was basically an asshole and didn't know what he was talking about) I have mainly seen DeRo score most of his goals from 'In Play' and PK's, but I have not watched DeRo play that often. Don't get me wrong I think DeRo is an outstanding player. But you two let it get out of hand, maybe a little too much Pre-Pubescent Testosterone floating around, have a beer and relax.

Cheers to TFC

Jack
03-15-2009, 09:06 PM
Calm down.

Personal insults are not needed.

Mrs. Workie
03-15-2009, 09:10 PM
I should take the free kicks.


/end thread.

Canadian Blue
03-15-2009, 09:13 PM
to tell the honest truth I should be taking all free kicks......I would like to challenge all of TFC's so called free kick takers (Guevara, Dero, Robbo and whoever else) to a free kick showdown.........guarantee I come no worse than second....if I win I get into a game at BMO for 5 minutes just so I can run over to 112 and jump in the crowd.....

egoodwin
03-15-2009, 09:15 PM
I'd rather Guevara take the free kicks, and then have DeRo in the box ready with a beautiful volley or header in case it's deflected by the keeper

FluSH
03-15-2009, 09:19 PM
I would have Guevara over DeRo taking the Free Kicks for more than just Guevara's expertise... I think DeRo is a better asset up front in case the ball does hit the post/other team and we need players to scramble...

FluSH
03-15-2009, 09:21 PM
I'd rather Guevara take the free kicks, and then have DeRo in the box ready with a beautiful volley or header in case it's deflected by the keeper


haha just what I said... didn't see your post

egoodwin
03-15-2009, 09:23 PM
i'm not the only one who can envision the epicness of a Guevara freekick ringing off the post being sent in by a DeRo bicycle kick

would be goal of the year... and DeRo has claimed that title couple times before

FluSH
03-15-2009, 09:24 PM
Also, Here are some stats:

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P.S. Look at how beautiful that Megaphone is!

I miss ours... :D

Jack
03-15-2009, 09:25 PM
It happened yesterday.

MartinUtd
03-15-2009, 09:27 PM
I remember Dero hitting a close one towards the end of the All Star game and I've seen a few good videos of him. Personally I'd like to see them switch it up but over all I prefer Guevara taking them with Dero threatening from inside the box.

MartinUtd
03-15-2009, 09:28 PM
haha just what I said... didn't see your post

ditto (again)

FluSH
03-15-2009, 09:29 PM
This compilation is not that bad either:

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notice where the majority of his goals come from... some clearly "Free Kick style" if there is such a term... =P

I just wish he drills a few of those for us this year...

SanStarko
03-15-2009, 10:33 PM
Both on the ball, with both kicking the ball at once? :D


Like this?

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Captain Croatia
03-15-2009, 10:50 PM
Guevara does not have enough power behind his FK's past 25 yards, so let him take a curler from inside 25.

DeRo is just a beast. The man will smack them in from anywhere.

So, DeRo over 25, Amado under 25.

Stryker
03-15-2009, 11:18 PM
I apologise for being unnecessarily douchey in my disagreeing with with you Pachuco. MUFC's car wreck of a game saturday and hearing the poolies sing you'll never walk alone in Trafford left me alittle ill and extremely bitchy all weekend. :mad:

cougars732
03-16-2009, 12:22 AM
ON A SIDE NOTE
did anyone notice DeRo take the ball out of Ricketts hands for that PK against DC?
After Guevara got taken down Rohan went straight for the ball, picked it up then DeRo came and took it from him.
Any thoughts on that?
Im 100% for DeRo taking the PK. just interesting to observe.

GhostPK
03-16-2009, 02:50 AM
ON A SIDE NOTE
did anyone notice DeRo take the ball out of Ricketts hands for that PK against DC?
After Guevara got taken down Rohan went straight for the ball, picked it up then DeRo came and took it from him.
Any thoughts on that?
Im 100% for DeRo taking the PK. just interesting to observe.

DeRo for PKs... So far he hasn't missed for us and relied on a rebound to finish the job. Also, DeRo has an awsome free kick from a distance. I have a youtube saved to my favorites, but Im sure if you type in Dero on youtube, you'll see the same powerful percise shot im talking about. On that note, Geuvara should be given a chance at FK as well, however, there was a time during that RSL game I thought Dero could have scored if he took the shot instead. Besides, Dero is wicked with FKs on my Fifa game and we all know that Fifa games are reality :D

Oldtimer
03-16-2009, 07:31 AM
Isn't it great that we have options?

Flipityflu
03-16-2009, 07:59 AM
both

Pachuco
03-16-2009, 09:00 AM
I apologise for being unnecessarily douchey in my disagreeing with with you Pachuco. MUFC's car wreck of a game saturday and hearing the poolies sing you'll never walk alone in Trafford left me alittle ill and extremely bitchy all weekend. :mad:

It's all good. My apoligies as well. Now back to supporting TFC!

Inklink
03-16-2009, 12:11 PM
Like this?

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That's what I'm talking about! :)